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White House compares illegal immigration to speeding
The Examiner ^ | May 26, 2006 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 05/26/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by VU4G10

WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."

The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.

"I don't know if Tony meant to trivialize it or not," said Will Adams, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "But it's certainly misleading."

"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."

Snow emphasized that illegals would have to pay fines, learn English and wait years for a chance at full citizenship. But Adams called that "a slap on the hand" compared to deportation.

"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday. The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.

Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

"Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.

"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."

But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2005signups; 2pathetic4words; aliens; alottanoobshere; amnesty; anmesty; antigop; borders; bushbash; coco; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; notreallygop; rinocrats; sammon; snow; tonysnow; unappeaseables
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To: llevrok


Hoo-Ha! So Tony has sold his soul to the devil!


61 posted on 05/26/2006 3:09:25 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: BW2221
Tony Snowjob

We have a winner.

62 posted on 05/26/2006 3:10:38 PM PDT by Digger
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To: BW2221
Tony Snowjob

We have a winner.

63 posted on 05/26/2006 3:11:23 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Let's Roll
Tony, Tony - didn't saying that stick in your craw?

I give Tony a year before he quits.

64 posted on 05/26/2006 3:12:09 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Colorado: the original Red State.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Are you saying that Republican members of congress can't win reelection unless they're lockstep with the President? Snow didn't say anything new in reference to the differences in what each side believe the definition of Amnesty is. The Senate immigration debate is more in line with a Pardon than Amnesty. Amnesty does not consist of any form of penalties for freedom where as a pardon is a forgiven conviction in which the debt to society has been mitigated or fulfilled.
65 posted on 05/26/2006 3:13:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: redfog

We will have to agree to disagree.


66 posted on 05/26/2006 3:13:35 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: VU4G10
"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

Lame-o Supreme-o!

67 posted on 05/26/2006 3:14:05 PM PDT by uncitizen ("In Congress We Do Not Trust")
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To: VU4G10

why the hell would tony snow go from the radio gig to a job where he has to try to pass this B.S off to the american people with a straight face? This sounds like something froma rush limbaugh parody commercial!


68 posted on 05/26/2006 3:14:50 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Gritty
This isn't a country anymore. We have become a pinata, full of limitless goodies to be batted out and exploited.

You've got that right. America! The Mother Of All Pinatas.

69 posted on 05/26/2006 3:14:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Mexico. The number one importer of "poverty" to America.)
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To: tobyhill

Presidential pardons can be issued PRIOR to convictions too.


70 posted on 05/26/2006 3:15:18 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: freepatriot32

He wants to serve his country and President.


71 posted on 05/26/2006 3:15:55 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: tobyhill

Do you really think any debt to society will ever be paid? Get real!


72 posted on 05/26/2006 3:18:13 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: Paperdoll
Hoo-Ha! So Tony has sold his soul to the devil!

Sympathy for the Devil

73 posted on 05/26/2006 3:18:18 PM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: clawrence3

Certainly can and has happened in the past but has never happened prior to some consequences for the action like resignation.


74 posted on 05/26/2006 3:18:55 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: BW2221

I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the legal definition. Get Real!


75 posted on 05/26/2006 3:21:05 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: VU4G10

The more B.S. Tony and the White House Spin Team keep pumping out there, the angrier Americans are going to get.


76 posted on 05/26/2006 3:21:34 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: mnehrling
#5 and #21 ............GREAT POSTS.

Maybe you should post them again, but one sentence at a

time for the BushBashers and others who apparently have

learning disabilities.
77 posted on 05/26/2006 3:22:11 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: Let's Roll

" Gee officer, I've been speeding, but I don't want to pay the fine." "Oh by the way the car is "borrowed", I have a phoney drivers license and I don't pay insurance or registration on the car". "But I'm not a criminal I just do the driving Americans won't do".


78 posted on 05/26/2006 3:24:31 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: VU4G10

Surreal. I used to respect this guy.


79 posted on 05/26/2006 3:25:56 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: AmeriBrit
Don't confuse the Bush and now Tony Bashers with facts.
80 posted on 05/26/2006 3:26:29 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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