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White House compares illegal immigration to speeding
The Examiner ^ | May 26, 2006 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 05/26/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by VU4G10

WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."

The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.

"I don't know if Tony meant to trivialize it or not," said Will Adams, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "But it's certainly misleading."

"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."

Snow emphasized that illegals would have to pay fines, learn English and wait years for a chance at full citizenship. But Adams called that "a slap on the hand" compared to deportation.

"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday. The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.

Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

"Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.

"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."

But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2005signups; 2pathetic4words; aliens; alottanoobshere; amnesty; anmesty; antigop; borders; bushbash; coco; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; notreallygop; rinocrats; sammon; snow; tonysnow; unappeaseables
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To: BW2221

i would LOVE his job!


41 posted on 05/26/2006 2:53:33 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: VU4G10

It's analogous with speeding only if during that speeding the driver was uninsured and crashing into other cars.

The victims of the speeder are the working citizen whose labor is devalued and the taxpayers who pay for the scofflaw employers to utilize the cheap labor.

Speeders don't change the demographics of your country and speeders don't give the vast majority of their votes to one party.


42 posted on 05/26/2006 2:54:38 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Sloth

That's about it. And lets not forget that these folks have been sapping our nation dry for years getting free healthcare, education for their kids and welfare, plus other freebies.

Speeding ticket? What a hoot! Somebody is actually stuped enough to think we'll buy into this.


43 posted on 05/26/2006 2:54:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Botulism: Doing the same thing over and over and over, yet expecting a different outcome.)
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To: VU4G10
The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

What a LOAD !!!

Hey Tony, mexicans get 12-15 CHANCES at crossing our borders before they are ever charged the first time.

Care to tell me which state I can *knowingly* get 12-15 WARNING tickets before I have to pay one ??

and will speeders also have the *option* of TAX EVASION for the next several years ???

Hmmmmm......???

(I too, want to be 'undoctmented'.....the perks get better everytime our *lawmakers* meet.)

44 posted on 05/26/2006 2:55:54 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: middie

What a slur against Coolidge!


45 posted on 05/26/2006 2:57:35 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: VU4G10

This isn't a country anymore. We have become a pinata, full of limitless goodies to be batted out and exploited.


46 posted on 05/26/2006 2:58:13 PM PDT by Gritty (The Senate Bill is a cynical corruption of the integrity of US sovereignty and citizenship-Mk Steyn)
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To: mnehrling
I have been trying to find the figures, which have been posted on FR numerous times.

An extremely sharp decline in prosecutions (from the thousands to the hundreds) occurred after Bush took office. And it's gotten worse every year. Let's be realistic; Bush has been extremely soft on immigration and border security and having Gonzalez as AG didn't help.

As a COMPASSIONATE conservative, Bush has never viewed illegal immigration as a problem ... and still doesn't.
47 posted on 05/26/2006 2:58:28 PM PDT by BW2221
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Tony, Tony, Tony (shaking head) You ought to be ashamed.


48 posted on 05/26/2006 2:58:33 PM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: llevrok

Tony Snow has his peices of silver, now he cares not a damn about the country, he is the well paid mouth piece of those that would destroy us.


49 posted on 05/26/2006 2:59:41 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: clawrence3

I disagree: reasonable thinking is not on the Senate's side.

Based on the past, verifiable history of the government's broken promises on immigration, "enforcement first, enforcement only", at least until 2008, is the only reasonable solution.


50 posted on 05/26/2006 3:00:16 PM PDT by redfog
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To: VU4G10
One thing is analogous: The speeders think they own the road like the Aztlanians think they own the country.
51 posted on 05/26/2006 3:00:23 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: VU4G10

White House compares illegal immigration to speeding



That's ok, that is what their surrogates have been doing for weeks now all over tv, print, radio and the web.


52 posted on 05/26/2006 3:01:06 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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To: VU4G10

Everyone please bookmark this thread.....you can save it and when we look back and wonder why the GOP got a ass kicking in the Nov elections well can remember why


53 posted on 05/26/2006 3:01:11 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Let's Roll

Under that comparison, If I got a speeding ticket, speed laws would no longer apply to me. Excuse me officer, I paid my fine, now am I free to go?


54 posted on 05/26/2006 3:02:34 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: llevrok

Tony did not go nuts. He has always been on the Bush bandwagon as far as amnesty goes.


55 posted on 05/26/2006 3:03:18 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest be)
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To: TomGuy
"Instead, the illegals are getting in-state tuition, social security, pardons for stealing social security numbers, pardons for stealing legal citizens' identities, etc"

You left out drivers licenses and voter registration. That last one will rise up and bite us in the butt.

56 posted on 05/26/2006 3:03:33 PM PDT by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: trubluolyguy


57 posted on 05/26/2006 3:04:40 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (What's going on now, calling it a pathway to citizenship is not honest. It's amnesty.)
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To: jpsb

Snow actually took a pay cut to give up his independence and become George Bush's "mouthpiece."


58 posted on 05/26/2006 3:04:43 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: VU4G10
It has come to my attention that ALL members of the JUDICIARY COMMITTEE will participate in the conference on the immigation bill..

Our battle is not with the Senators who voted on the "Senate Version" on the bill....the two bill are "oceans" apart.. with the house version being a MUCH BETTER BILL !! our battle is with the Senators who will go to conference with house.. which I just found out will be ALL MEMBERS of the Judiciary Committee and then some additional Senators yet to be named by Reid and Frist !!!...

WE NEED TO LET THESE FOLKS KNOW that we SUPPORT THE HOUSE VERSION !! NOT THE SENATE VERSION !!! now get er done !!

---> for now we can focus our efforts on the JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMEBERS !!!

Arlen Specter Orrin G. Hatch Patrick J. Leahy Charles E. Grassley Edward M. Kennedy Jon Kyl Joseph R. Biden, Jr. Mike DeWine Hrbert Kohl Jeff Sessions Dianne Feinstein Lindsey Graham Russell D. Feingold John Cornyn Charles E. Schumer Sam Brownback Richard J. Durbin Tom Coburn

I have written an OPEN LETTER to the conferees and I encouge EVERYONE who cares about this to do the same.... feel free to copy/edit/distribute my letter..

MY OPEN LETTER TO CONFEREES

59 posted on 05/26/2006 3:06:24 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: VU4G10

Hey, Tony, speeding kills!!!


60 posted on 05/26/2006 3:06:44 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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