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White House compares illegal immigration to speeding
The Examiner ^ | May 26, 2006 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 05/26/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by VU4G10

WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."

The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.

"I don't know if Tony meant to trivialize it or not," said Will Adams, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "But it's certainly misleading."

"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."

Snow emphasized that illegals would have to pay fines, learn English and wait years for a chance at full citizenship. But Adams called that "a slap on the hand" compared to deportation.

"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday. The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.

Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

"Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.

"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."

But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2005signups; 2pathetic4words; aliens; alottanoobshere; amnesty; anmesty; antigop; borders; bushbash; coco; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; notreallygop; rinocrats; sammon; snow; tonysnow; unappeaseables
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To: VU4G10
Tony, does this mean if I violate mexico's soveriegnty and cross their border without permission, steal their property, their licenses, their identification, and take up residence in jobs Mexicans won't do that I'll just have to pay an expensive fine the equivalent of a traffic violation? or will my butt be thrown in jail!!

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.

Damn right. The President, infact, is telling a LIE.

The man I almost was comforted that was at least honest has LIED. Bill Clinton had the wagging finger, now this President wags amnesty in my face and tell me it's not.

Get this for honesty Party boosters. As a mod Lib I wouldn't support Clinton because his character was flawed. I blew my top when he lied on national TV. I since became a conservative in ideology. Now I blow my top that another President has lied to my face. Who is consistent here? People that railed against Clinton and now try to justify Bush, or someone that was a Lib that ripped Clinton to shreds and now will do the same with this man as a conservative.

I've told people before Character mattered ABOVE EVERYTHING TO ME. George W. Bush's character has been tarnished, and I will treat his lie the same I did Clinton's lie. With contempt.

121 posted on 05/26/2006 4:31:02 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: BW2221
That was my quote and I have no problem with someone that disagrees with the President but I have a problem with someone that makes every issue a personal attack. It seems "Bushbashers" get offended the same way us "Bushbots" get offended? Agreements or disagreements with the Presidents policies shouldn't make one either.
122 posted on 05/26/2006 4:32:13 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Let's Roll
No, Tony, because to make the analogy apt, you would continue speeding all day and everyday.

All 29 million of you.

123 posted on 05/26/2006 4:38:00 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: llevrok
has Tony gone nuts? That WH paycheck must be many times better than his Fox one....

You can't blame Tony for his words. He's just doing his job.

124 posted on 05/26/2006 4:40:06 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
You can't blame Tony for his words. He's just doing his job.

Any body that is not true to themself is subject to blame. And I think Tony is not being true to himself.

125 posted on 05/26/2006 4:42:56 PM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: tobyhill
Trolls ... Bushbashers?

You must drink KoolAid by the tank car.
126 posted on 05/26/2006 4:45:51 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: TomGuy
Except that when a speeder is stopped, he does get a ticket.

And what Tony is missing here is the fact that the speeder is a lawfully licensed driver [i.e., LEGAL] in the first place. And if he isn't, he usually gets more than a ticket.

I can't believe the WH is saying this crap.

127 posted on 05/26/2006 4:49:16 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: BW2221

You can accuse Clinton of a lot of things (I certainly have) but the number of prosecutions and deportations dropped significantly since Bush became president.

@@@@

I bet we find this little factoid on Snopes before too long. The only deportation Clinton favored was a little boy from Cuba.


128 posted on 05/26/2006 4:55:04 PM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: AFreeBird
I can't believe the WH is saying this crap.

It always seemed to me that they wanted to emulate the Clinton's. Right off the bat I remember they were doing the Clinton photo ops in the schools just like the Clinton's did.

129 posted on 05/26/2006 5:00:30 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Diddle E. Squat

And we appreciate it too DES. Thanks.


130 posted on 05/26/2006 5:07:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Botulism: Doing the same thing over and over and over, yet expecting a different outcome.)
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To: maica
The only deportation Clinton favored was a little boy from Cuba.

And Elian was a legal immigrant.

131 posted on 05/26/2006 5:09:53 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: mnehrling

Interesting. Thanks for posting the statute.


132 posted on 05/26/2006 5:11:57 PM PDT by Canedawg (In God We Trust)
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To: VU4G10
I haven't read this thread yet but I would imagine our man Tony Snow will get bashed for selling out.

That being said, the analogy is ludicrous and not worthy of Tony. However I won't bash him, he works for the President and the Senate bill is the President's wishes come true.

Very sad indeed.

133 posted on 05/26/2006 5:14:30 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Canedawg
Thanks for posting the statute.

The Statute is a Clinton Executive Order. One stroke of the pen and it goes away, like any of previous Executive Orders.

134 posted on 05/26/2006 5:18:33 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: relictele; B Knotts
Why do I keep getting the feeling that the Bush team wants this 2nd term over with ASAP?

Rove, Bush et al simply do not realize the peril they're in. If this Act passes, Bush is impeached; simple as that. There will be those who worked precints in '04 that will be out in force supporting the Dem House managers. If the Senate flips as well, this could go all the way.

135 posted on 05/26/2006 5:18:40 PM PDT by lemura
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To: VU4G10

Too bad for Snow that he has to parrot these hilarious lines in trying to defend the indefensible position of the President on amnesty. When all those illegals become registered Democrats next year, Snow and Bush won't have to worry about future spinning. I have a feeling they will be prematurely retired.


136 posted on 05/26/2006 5:22:17 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: All
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!


Why is the WH stuck on stupid with this issue!!!!!

This is immigration! This is invading your home!

"Oh home invasion robbery is just like speeding. The robber invades your house, molests your family, steals your stuff and then with a little fine all is just peachy. :-) "

This just DEFIES logic!

Tony please stop the hemorrhaging! TALK TO THEM!
137 posted on 05/26/2006 5:26:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JRochelle
Is it the maid or the gardener? Or do you employ illegals?

It's possible HE is ILLEGAL.

138 posted on 05/26/2006 5:28:40 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: longtermmemmory
Every day, the admin steps behind that pulpit and finds a whole new way to say, "F%$# you, Joe Sixpack. F%$# you, average middle-class taxpayer. F&%$# you, that dares to call yourself conservative."

I'm past mad, because they have to know what they're doing with this continual barrage of insults. This is designed to intimidate us, or enrage us into making a costly error.

I'm sorry, but I can't find any other answer than this...GWBush despises conservatives.

139 posted on 05/26/2006 5:30:09 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: VU4G10

Glad it's Tony and not me; I couldn't repeat that tripe without a fit of sneezing.

"BULLsh...!! BULLshi...!! BULLshi...!!"


140 posted on 05/26/2006 5:31:43 PM PDT by HKMk23 (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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