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Authorities ask why hallucinogenic herb is legal
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 05/26/2006 | Karen Grace

Posted on 05/26/2006 1:11:43 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

A herb that makes you hallucinate is perfectly legal in Texas. The drug is sold without a prescription, and medical experts say it's dangerous.

At the Gas Pipe in Austin, Purple Sticky Salvia is sold for $20, along with a list of safety instructions on how to smoke it.

However, some argue that the list is not enough — the product should be banned by state and federal governments.

Purple Sticky Salvia is an all-natural hallucinogen, made from native plants used in landscaping. In Mexico, it has been used in religious ceremonies for centuries.

"It is something that I think it's very real, and has the potential to do some real damage," said Dr. John Roache, a clinical pharmacologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center.

Roache is skeptical of the herb salvia divinorum, which can also be purchased online. One place it can't be found is on the Drug Enforcement Agency's list of controlled substances, and experts say that's a problem.

"I do consider it very dangerous, and I think it's only a matter of time before it will become illegal," Roache said.

Now teens are using it for their own trips.

"For a few minutes you see stuff, you hallucinate for a little bit," user Steve Fanning said.

D.A.R.E. coordinator Dep. George Little is baffled by the product's accessibility.

"There comes a time when somebody ought to say enough is enough," Little said.

He says if people are smoking it and hallucinating, then it needs to be off the market.

"Just because something's legal, doesn't necessarily make it right," Little said.

So far, a handful of states are considering outlawing this drug. Louisiana and Missouri have already done so, and several other countries have named it a controlled substance.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; drugs; govwatch; herbs; texas; wod; wodlist
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To: P-40

Good thing the stupid nanny staters haven't seen that book.


41 posted on 05/26/2006 1:40:43 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: tumblindice

Don't know about that plant.........


42 posted on 05/26/2006 1:41:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good, more government solutions to nonproblems. Let's kick in every door in the country and spend billions of dollars looking for this plant. After all, it's not like our country has real problems to address.


43 posted on 05/26/2006 1:42:09 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Responsibility2nd

I guess the Nanny state has got to keep people from hurting themselves. One may think one is an adult, but one is simply another child of the state.


44 posted on 05/26/2006 1:43:27 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: lastchance

Belladonna is also legal, but I don't think that the PTB have to worry about criminalising it. I don't think anyone ever uses it more than once.


45 posted on 05/26/2006 1:44:00 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives to support your guy.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Can't be any worse than Jimson Weed....


46 posted on 05/26/2006 1:44:27 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Morning glory seeds give you a much better trip.


47 posted on 05/26/2006 1:45:02 PM PDT by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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To: traviskicks; Wolfie

ping


48 posted on 05/26/2006 1:45:19 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: stands2reason

Your right about the Belladonna. I know people who have used Salvia, they all say they will not do it again.

Little side note. One of the drugs used a lot by the Manson Family was Belladonna.


49 posted on 05/26/2006 1:48:20 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Old Professer

ERADICATE ALL BUFO TOADS!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 05/26/2006 1:54:07 PM PDT by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: beltfed308
Spoken like a true comrade.

No, it's just reality. But perhaps you thought that slavery was right?

51 posted on 05/26/2006 1:55:44 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Flash animation on that site seems to indicate that if you take this sh*t you'll see kaliedoscopic visions of beautiful young women posing seductively. That's cool...

But what if I take it while posting on FR? If anybody posts a pic of some ugly lib, will I see kaleidoscopic visions of Helen Thomas? I don't think I can deal with that....

52 posted on 05/26/2006 2:10:23 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Purple sticky saliva sounds just gross..
Where does the saliva come from?..

OH! SALVIA(Sage).. nevermind.. ;^)

53 posted on 05/26/2006 2:16:01 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Responsibility2nd

you know, you can't get high unless you're breathing, therefore, I think air should be outlawed!


54 posted on 05/26/2006 2:21:04 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Purple Sticky Salvia is an all-natural hallucinogen...

How long before Purple Sticky Salvia is found to:

(a) Have the greatest biomass of any plant on the earth and will solve the planet's energy needs forever;
(b) Rumored to cure all cancers and most debilitating diseases;
(c) Allow patients with terminal "ribbon" diseases to live out their lives in physical comfort and mental ease.

??

10...9...8...7...

55 posted on 05/26/2006 2:30:38 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Sir Gawain
Salvia is a very common garden plant.


56 posted on 05/26/2006 2:31:15 PM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: Responsibility2nd
He says if people are smoking it and hallucinating, then it needs to be off the market.

Yeah, don't want any unfair competition to the manufacturers of booze and pills.

57 posted on 05/26/2006 2:34:29 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Responsibility2nd

You will not escape from reality, you will be assimilated.


58 posted on 05/26/2006 2:38:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Here's the transcript from one of our local TV stations
Airdate: April 27th, 2006 (Please forgive the CAPS)

MAGIC MINT. SALLIE D. DIVINER'S SAGE. FRESHMAN SELECTION. PURPLE STICKY. THE HERB SALVIA IS KNOWN BY MANY NAMES.

IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS "THE DRUG THE GOVERNMENT FORGOT TO BAN."

SEVEN-ON-YOUR-SIDE'S JASON PEDERSON TAKES A LOOK.

AN INTERNET CONNECTION AND $65 DOLLARS. THREE DAYS LATER WE HAD AN OUNCE OF SALVIA LEAVES AND TWO GRAM SIZED BAGS OF CONCENTRATED SALVIA EXTRACT.

(Dr. Joseph Banken/U.A.M.S.) "It is the most powerful natural hallucinogen known."

DR. JOSEPH BANKEN IS A CLINICAL PSYCHIATRIST WITH UAMS. BANKEN ALSO RESEARCHES THE EFFECTS OF RECREATIONAL DRUGS, INCLUDING SALVIA.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SPECIES OF SALVIA, MANY USED IN LANDSCAPING AND GARDENING. SALVIA DIVINORUM HAS BEEN USED FOR CENTURIES IN MEXICO DURING RELIGIOUS CEREMONIES. THE MAZATEC INDIANS BELIEVED THE BITTER HERB...FROM THE MINT FAMILY...HELPED THEM COMMUNICATE WITH SPIRITS.

IN LOW CONCENTRATIONS SALIVA CREATES A PLEASANT EUPHORIA OR MILD HALLUCINATIONS. BUT HIGHER DOSES CAN PRODUCE OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES, A FEELING OF HEIGHTENED AWARENESS, PARANOIA AND DISTURBING OR CONFUSING VISIONS.

(Dr. Banken) "It is very rapid acting and very short in its primary effect."

(William Bryant/Asst. Special Agent in Charge, DEA) "If you smoke it it is supposed to be able to get you high in approximately 15 to 30 seconds and that high will last anywhere from 10 to 15 to 20 minutes."

ALTHOUGH SALVIA IS NOT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE, BRYANT SAYS THE DEA DOES CLASSIFY IT AS A DRUG OF CONCERN.

DELAWARE WILL SOON JOIN MISSOURI AND LOUISIANA AS THE ONLY STATES THAT HAVE OUTLAWED SALVIA. A HANDFUL OF OTHER STATES...NEW YORK, ILLINOIS, ALASKA, TENNESSEE AND NEW JERSEY...ARE CONSIDERING TAKING SUCH ACTION.

CLOSE TO A DOZEN COUNTRIES, INCLUDING DENMARK, SWEDEN, AUSTRALIA, ITALY, BELGIUM, SOUTH KOREA, AND BRAZIL...HAVE MADE SALVIA A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. IN FACT, SOME COUNTRIES THAT HAVE OUTLAWED SALVIA TAKE A MORE PERMISSIVE STANCE ON DRUGS LIKE MARIJUANA.

(Dr. Banken) "I've not seen that that has helped when drugs have been made illegal in all cases but it should be...it should be more tightly controlled. That people can order it right from the internet and it be delivered to their home is of great concern."

THAT IS HOW 17 YEAR-OLD BRETT CHIDESTER GOT HIS SALVIA...OVER THE INTERNET.

AFTER THE DELAWARE TEEN COMMITTED SUICIDE, HIS PARENTS FOUND A SUICIDE NOTE THAT SUGGESTS THE DRUG INFLUENCED HIS DECISION TO END HIS LIFE.

(Kathleen Chidester/Delaware) "He said he wanted to explore the boundaries that we have...you know once he took that salvia he wanted to explore and go beyond the senses and the boundaries that we have here on earth."

(Dr. Banken) "My concern is if a person is already depressed or anxious it could certainly make those conditions considerably worse."

TEENAGERS HAVE BEEN LINKED TO SALVIA USE IN SEVERAL ARKANSAS CITIES, INCLUDING JONESBORO, FAYETTEVILLE, MALVERN, KIRBY, AND BATESVILLE.

(Bryant) "Just because a substance...if it is not classified or scheduled doesn't mean its healthy for you. The research is still going on what this substance is doing to our kids."

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT SALVIA...AGENT BRYANT SUGGESTS YOU VISIT THE D-E-A'S WEBSITE WHICH IS LINKED THROUGH OURS AT KATV.COM.

BY THE WAY...I VISITED TWO LITTLE ROCK HEAD SHOPS TODAY AND BOTH SELL SALVIA...MARKETED AS INCENSE

59 posted on 05/26/2006 2:40:05 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: Red Badger

Oleander......very deadly.........

You can say that again, unlucky too.

Joann picked some the day of her wedding and it went
straight to hell after that!

Soap Opera bump.


60 posted on 05/26/2006 2:41:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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