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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: b4its2late
AAaahhhh, another ditto head. LOL

Jefferson can be nonpartisan with Randy Cunningham or he can be in the cell opposite from him and "reach across the aisle." (snicker snicker)

281 posted on 05/23/2006 8:21:23 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Sir Gawain
What's too bad is that so many don't care that he is right.

What's a republic without idiots for citizens though? If we didn't have idiots for citizens we could be a democracy.

282 posted on 05/23/2006 8:21:23 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: NormsRevenge
So Congress critters can have severed body parts in their congressional office fridge and even if the Feds KNOW it, the US CONSTITUTION's seperation of powers forbids the Feds from getting a court order to remove?

I'm no lawyer but this can't be right!!

283 posted on 05/23/2006 8:21:35 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: samantha
They are not going after Congress,the idiot was caught on tape taking a bribe. They tried to get him to turn over papers, he did not. Just make like he is not a high and mighty member of Congress and imagine he is a Owner of a Crooked Car dealership. Would you object if his office was raided by the Police and D.A.'s Office? I don't think so. He is a normal(strike that) American Human Being and therefore subject to the same laws as you or I. He has not even been arrested yet.

He's an elected official in Congress and that is all that matters. He has special exemptions. That's our system.

284 posted on 05/23/2006 8:21:40 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: tarheelswamprat
Ain't it the truth.

If the Executive, Judicial and Legislative Branches protected our rights and liberties as zealously as they protect their privileges and powers we wouldn't recognize the country.

285 posted on 05/23/2006 8:26:00 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Despot of the Delta
He's an elected official in Congress and that is all that matters. He has special exemptions. That's our system.

But not in issues of Treason, Felony, or Breach of Peace
286 posted on 05/23/2006 8:28:07 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: NormsRevenge

There was a warrant signed by a judge. Go yell at the Judiciary.


287 posted on 05/23/2006 8:28:28 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: mrsmith
The acts of the House are not subject to any Executive or Judicial process.

These weren't "acts of the House" in the exercise of its constitutional duties. These were the acts of a felon trying to cover up his criminal activities. Isn't there a difference?

288 posted on 05/23/2006 8:28:33 PM PDT by Bahbah (“KERRY LIED!! SCHOLARLY ATTRIBUTION DIED!!!”)
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To: dufekin

I'm just checking .. you forgot to add a [/s] at the end - to indicate satire .. didn't you ..??


289 posted on 05/23/2006 8:29:19 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Bahbah
But in their search they had to look through and examine the legitimate papers it was hidden among.

That was the job of the "filter" team, which was composed of officers of the Executive Branch.

290 posted on 05/23/2006 8:36:59 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: HangnJudge
But not in issues of Treason, Felony, or Breach of Peace

Well if they are so damn positive he committed a felony, why haven't they arrested his ass?

291 posted on 05/23/2006 8:37:25 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: bnelson44
No one is above the law.

LOL!!!

j F sKerry
Teddy Kennedy
Mr. and Mrs. B.J. Klintoon
Patches Kennedy
Cynthia McKinney
Sandy Burgler
Jay Rockefeller

Too tired to continue................

292 posted on 05/23/2006 8:44:50 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: CyberAnt
In other words .. all congress people are above the law ..?? I don't think so!

To a limited extent, they are.

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.Article 1 Section 6, Constitution for the United States.

293 posted on 05/23/2006 8:48:56 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Despot of the Delta
A $100,000 Bribe is a felony offense methinks

Heck if I know why he's not been arrested
294 posted on 05/23/2006 8:51:18 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: justche
What exactly is the Speech and Debate clause anyway?Art 1, Section 6., see my post above.

I do believe the CongressCritters are willfully ignoring the phrase starting with "except"

295 posted on 05/23/2006 8:52:17 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: NormsRevenge
I guess they are all afraid of Pres, Hillary raiding their offices.

Hey Fat Denny....YOU GUYS ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW!!

296 posted on 05/23/2006 8:52:22 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: tongue-tied

Why?

Doesn't the FBI/DOJ fall under the Executive branch?

I believe that the president is fully entitled to FBI files.


297 posted on 05/23/2006 8:53:01 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: Rummyfan

Gonzales said they subpoenaed things and Jefferson didn't comply with the subpoena.


298 posted on 05/23/2006 8:53:45 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: NCLaw441

Your point is valid too, but when are we going to show half the shrewdness of the other side and play some hardball politics?

It is a total embarrassment for us to allow a seriously wounded minority democratic party to be successful in sidetracking our adgenda day after day.

Almost every issue is an opportunity to stuff the dems and our side bungles it. We need new leadership. Starting with limp wrist Frist. Politically speaking, I'd trade you two Frists for one Ried any day of the week.


299 posted on 05/23/2006 8:54:57 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: tongue-tied
Apparently the FBI as a section (branch?) of the judicial

The FBI is part of the Justice Department, which is an Executive Branch department, not part of the Judicial (ie. Courts) branch of the FedGov.

300 posted on 05/23/2006 8:56:09 PM PDT by El Gato
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