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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: NormsRevenge
Just a Beltway Clan Squabble.

Must be something in the DC Capitol air.. get me Jack Bauer Sorry, Mr. Bauer is unavailable. He's on a slow boat to China.

141 posted on 05/23/2006 6:50:47 PM PDT by mlstier ("The Right to Privacy does not trump the Right to Life" -- Bill O'Reilly)
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To: KoRn
Geez. Agree with this or not, that's just tasteless. Try posting above the level of 2nd grade next time.

Do not be of concern.

142 posted on 05/23/2006 6:51:33 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: defconw

You wouldn't be alone!


143 posted on 05/23/2006 6:52:03 PM PDT by mcshot (Enemies pouring through our gates.)
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To: Doe Eyes

Congress has the power to make laws. The executive branch has the power to act on those laws. If the Congress feels the executive branch is doing wrong, then the Congress can force impeachment hearings. Otherwise, they're pretty much up a creek. And they must depend upon some corroboration from someone within the executive branch. Or they could always make things up.


144 posted on 05/23/2006 6:53:21 PM PDT by petitfour ("Seek the Lord and live.")
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To: mrsmith

I can see the point, but it's not a workable solution. They cannot be the sole police, judge and jury of their own or else it is a recipe for abuse and corruption.


145 posted on 05/23/2006 6:53:54 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: NormsRevenge

Horse manure.

Hastert apparently believes that if you want to run a criminal racket, all you need to do is run it from the safe harbor of your Congressional office and you can't be touched.

Umm. Oh.... Wait....


146 posted on 05/23/2006 6:54:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: monkeyshine
Each representative should be 100% focussed on representing their STATE, not their political party.
Maybe I'm reading you wrong...Senators, not House Representatives, were supposed to represent their State. House Representatives are the ones that are supposed to represent the people.
147 posted on 05/23/2006 6:54:08 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: NormsRevenge

This Jefferson dude (D-La) is about to become a bongo player with the Ditzie Chicks tour band.


148 posted on 05/23/2006 6:54:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: NormsRevenge

The raid was conducted because the congressman ignored a subpoena!


149 posted on 05/23/2006 6:55:31 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: petitfour

Or they can legislate away the FBI. Then, no more outside investigations of their corruptions. I think it fair that if they can police the executive, then the executive can police them. Checks and balances. Of course, they can all conspire together but that's another matter.


150 posted on 05/23/2006 6:55:36 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
They cannot be the sole police, judge and jury of their own or else it is a recipe for abuse and corruption.

LMBO!!! Heaven forfend!

151 posted on 05/23/2006 6:55:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge

What was Reagans rule?


152 posted on 05/23/2006 6:56:25 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Peach
Well, I've had a bellyful. A pox on both their houses.
153 posted on 05/23/2006 6:56:55 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge

Surreal.. each day becomes more surreal.


154 posted on 05/23/2006 6:57:08 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Crooked Constituent

"I'm so sick of this crap that I don't care if democrats take the house and senate. At least we will be watching people who know how to play politics. "

And after all, that IS the most important thing.


155 posted on 05/23/2006 6:57:31 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental illness!)
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To: mcshot
I hear you, we would all be banned, but it takes a lot of chutzpah even for the Speaker of the House to say he's above the law. Ugh!
156 posted on 05/23/2006 6:57:43 PM PDT by defconw (Forever a Snowflake! Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it?)
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To: mojo114; DefCon

http://www.house.gov/hastert/district.shtml

The above is alisting of towns/cities within his district. Any zip code finder will get you the zip for each one.


157 posted on 05/23/2006 6:58:27 PM PDT by deport
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To: mvpel

Unfortunately, that case dealt with the arrest and sentence of Congressment - not SEARCH warrants - Hastert is complaining about the separations of powers in the Debate Clause of the Constitution.


158 posted on 05/23/2006 6:58:52 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: philman_36

Yes, your correction is welcome. They represent their district, the people of their district... and then their state. These days the districts are very intertwined economically and socially, so while each one should be primarily focused on the people of their district, they can and should use their collective influence for the betterment of the state at large.

As an example, if California chose to disassociate itself from the two parties and elected only members of "The California Party" it would command 12% of the votes of the House. That's a lot of leverage wasted because they are divided by party.


159 posted on 05/23/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: NormsRevenge

Where in the Constitution does the Speaker of the House get to pass judgement on the Constitutionality of anything?

He is not a judge.


160 posted on 05/23/2006 6:59:24 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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