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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: NormsRevenge

I have two words for Dennis Hastert. French Revolution.


101 posted on 05/23/2006 6:35:15 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: dfwgator

He's from Illinois.. home state of George Ryan.. Nyaahhhhh
.. could never happen. ;-)


102 posted on 05/23/2006 6:35:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: eleni121; All

From the piece by Byron York- (which link I will post again- ANYONE interested in this case will be informed by reading it at: http://corner.nationalreview.com/



Then the warrant describes a set of extraordinary procedures involving not only prosecutors but also the Court, by which Congressional privileges will be respected:


To ensure the prosecution team does not inadvertently review any potentially politically sensitive, non-responsive items in the office, or information that may fall within the purview of the Speech or Debate Clause privilege, or any other pertinent privilege, the physical search of the office will be conducted by special agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation who have had no substantive role in the investigation.

The non-case agents will remove from the office those paper records determined to be responsive [to a detailed list of things to be search for included at the end of the warrant request]…Other than as required to determine responsiveness, the non-case agents will not disclose to anyone any politically sensitive and non-responsive items inadvertently seen by the non-case agents during the course of the search of the office and will attest in writing to their compliance with this procedure.

Before giving any paper records seized from the office to the prosecution team, the non-case agents will deliver the seized paper records to the designated Filter Team….Prior to their appointment, the Filter Team will have had no role or connection to the investigation in this matter and their subsequent roles in the investigation will be confined to their duties and responsibilities in connection with these special procedures.

The Filter Team will review the paper records seized from the office to validate that they are responsive…Any paper records seized from the office that are determined by the Filter Team to be unresponsive…will be promptly returned to the office…

Paper records validated by the Filter Team as responsive…will undergo a second level of review by the Filter Team. The Filter Team will review the responsive records to determine if they may fall within the purview of the Speech or Debate Clause privilege or any other pertinent privilege…

For those paper records determined by the Filter Team as potentially within the purview of the Speech or Debate Clause privilege, or any other pertinent privilege, the Filter Team shall provide a log of those potentially privileged paper records to counsel for Congressman Jefferson. The log shall identify the record by date, recipient, sender and subject matter….The Filter Team shall not provide the log or copies of the potentially privileged paper records to the prosecution team, unless otherwise ordered by the Court…

The Filter Team shall then request the District Court to review the potentially privileged paper records in order for the Court to name a final determination whether they contain privileged information, unless counsel for Congressman Jefferson consents to the production to the prosecution team of certain of the potentially privileged paper records.


103 posted on 05/23/2006 6:35:48 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: demkicker
Preposterous isn't it! Wonder what else Congress has to hide?
104 posted on 05/23/2006 6:35:53 PM PDT by defconw (Forever a Snowflake! Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tried to get to Hassert 's email and I can't find out how to contact him .They won't let me in if I'm not living in the zip code. Help please.


105 posted on 05/23/2006 6:36:14 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: Ikemeister
"No wonder Congress has a lower approval rating than the Prez. "

Yep...they've really EARNed too.

106 posted on 05/23/2006 6:36:21 PM PDT by NordP (Reagan/GWB Republican - Bauer Patriot)
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To: Jim Noble

Isn't taking a $100,000 bribe a felony?


107 posted on 05/23/2006 6:36:46 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: NormsRevenge
Hmm. I guess Denny's mighty worried about who Willy was holding the cash for.

We nab the bag man for a bribes to in Congress, and wouldn't you know? Both sides are convinced it was "unconstutional" and just plain mean.

Right.

108 posted on 05/23/2006 6:36:51 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: NormsRevenge

�<;�����<@� Federal judge authorized the search? Need a judge to monitor international communications between terrorists and their allies in this country? A judge is then good enough to authorize a search of a Congress critter's office on the Hill.</p>


109 posted on 05/23/2006 6:36:53 PM PDT by Whispering Smith
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To: NCLaw441

What we need to do is get rid of these two political parties. Party politics doesn't belong in the House especially. Each representative should be 100% focussed on representing their STATE, not their political party.

Sure they and we have freedom of association, but we should choose NOT to associate with political parties for the house seats. Every state should have their own political party.


110 posted on 05/23/2006 6:37:00 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: mojo114; ChicagoConservative27

Do you know Dennis Hastert's district zip code?


111 posted on 05/23/2006 6:37:39 PM PDT by defconw (Forever a Snowflake! Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it?)
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To: freedumb2003
Actually, it was settled in 1907 or thereabouts: Williamson v. US, 207 US 425
112 posted on 05/23/2006 6:37:47 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: xrp
"xrp to Hastert: Whatever, fatboy."

Geez. Agree with this or not, that's just tasteless. Try posting above the level of 2nd grade next time.

113 posted on 05/23/2006 6:38:04 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: NormsRevenge
get me Jack Bauer

Can't, he's on a slow boat to China.

114 posted on 05/23/2006 6:38:14 PM PDT by patj
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To: Hildy

Talk about weak Republican leadership. When Hastert comes to the defense of a corrupt Democrat it's time to clean house.


115 posted on 05/23/2006 6:38:58 PM PDT by baltoga
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To: Redmen4ever

Thank you for your post #45. It was the first sensible comment on the thread. You kept me from having to say it.


116 posted on 05/23/2006 6:39:55 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Doe Eyes; Congressman Billybob

Does Congress have the power to order searches of the White House?


Congressman Billybob, looking for any insight you could share re: the question asked by doe eyes.

Thanks.


117 posted on 05/23/2006 6:40:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: Cementjungle; NormsRevenge

> It's not like he hasn't had more thn enough time
> to clean out his files in his office.

Well, based on the history being reported today, he
probably thought his HOB offices were immune.

Why do I have a feeling that a LOT of HOB desks and
file cabinets are being cleaned out this week?

Perhaps the FBI move was in part to provoke such a
panic on the part of some other congresscritter.

By the way, to draw on some private sector observations,
it's amazing how many employees fail to clean out their
desks when they know they are about to be fired, or
quit under hostile circumstances. They get marched to
the door and have to wait weeks for company lawyers to
decide what desk contents get returned.


118 posted on 05/23/2006 6:40:53 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: baltoga

It's absolutely UNBELIEVABLE. This Republican leadership has to be the most pathetic, spineless, nincompoops I've ever seen. It makes me literally want to scream. Everyday I want to scream.


119 posted on 05/23/2006 6:41:11 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: GretchenM

re: your post #50: Well said!


120 posted on 05/23/2006 6:41:16 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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