Posted on 05/23/2006 4:12:31 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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If he was born in 1984, that would have him being renamed at the age of two.
Now if he would just learn how to spell his first name consistently.
All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this story.
Now who's fantasizing? You posted this at 4:12 Pacific time; it had been on several different sites for hours by then. And you commented with "FWIW". The answer to that one is "not much."
How do you know this?
Which part? The fact that he had no control over it? I know this from statutory law regarding the incompetence of two-year-olds to enter into legal proceedings. Or the fact that he probably had no awareness of it? General experience with two-year-olds.
Is this from you same dream about Al-Zaid being a Lebanese name? (It isn't.)
It's not a dream; I read it on a site which I don't recall. I freely admit that the site may have been wrong. My last name, by the way, is German in origin. I'm third-generation American. I guess I must be a secret German sleeper agent or something.
I invite you to wager any sum of money you want that I can find a native Lebanese with surname al-Zaid. Wanna take me up on it? Or will you back down from your rather silly claim that because al-Zaid is a "Saudi name" that everybody who has it must be Saudi?
What if he is very proud of his Arabic heritage. What if he is a Moslem or Moslem convert?
Oh, I'm sorry. If I was aware that you were one of those who insisted on viewing over a billion people as our implacable foes, deserving of condemnation solely for his race, I wouldn't have bothered wasting time with you.
Remember what I said earlier about not wanting Free Republic to appear foolish? Blathering about those dirty AY-rabs is one of the things that does it.
What is foolish about getting out the facts?
That depends entirely on the facts. There's a natural presumption that when somebody posts something, he believes it has some sort of relevance. Therefore, somebody who posts something irrelevant (without explicitly stating so), he looks foolish for seeing importance in the trivial. If, for example, I made the effort to create a thread saying that MacBeth had a high school sweetheart named Nancy, which is the same first name as the odious House Minority Leader "FWIW", people would rightly laugh at me for thinking that it had anything to do with anything at all.
And what facts have you gotten out?
Well, let's see. I posted information about MacBeth's real legal proceedings, the bench warrant issued yesterday, on Free Republic at 11:10 AM yesterday. Did anyone beat me to it? I also was the first person to deliver this information to Conservative Underground and ArmyRangers.com.
But hey. You just go ahead and think that having one's name changed at two years old means anything at all 18 years later.
Oh. Thank you for explaining that. For, you see, I just learned how to speak English ten minutes before I posted, and this is the very, very first time I've ever used the Internet, so I didn't realize what the creation date on a dynamically-generated page meant.
In the meantime, those who infer the date of court proceedings by looking at the date of those proceedings rather than the date a web page was generated will find the following at my link:
05/05/2006 | RETURN ON SUMMONS | Public | 1 | |
05/18/2006 | MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR BENCH WARRANT | Public | 1 | |
05/23/2006 | ORDER DIRECTING ISSUANCE OF BENCH WARRANT | Public | 1 | |
05/23/2006 | BENCH WARRANT | Public | 1 |
Not to sound PC or whatever, but to give a counter example, to show that it DOES happen.. I am very close to a young man, whose father was Arab. The mother was not. His father had very little influence on him growing up, basically, the dad was an a$$hole, and the son hates him to this day. His parents divorced when he was about 10 years old, because of the abuse the dad put his mother through.
The son is nominally a Christian, pro-American, completely, culturally, American, and yet both his first and last name are Arab. He plans to have his last name changed, his first name could pass for Hispanic, as its a very common Arab first name that is used in other cultures.
Nicely done.
Great Job!
Sam, thanks and keep up the good work.
I totally agree with you. Maybe the real 'Rangers' should be able to apply justice to this rotten egg. My oldest is an Army Ranger and he's worked very hard for that privilege.
Sam, below is a FR thread posted by Cannoneer No. 4
on this POS.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1637096/posts
Poser Police
CIIDG ^ | 23 MAY 06 | Cannoneer No. 4
Posted on 05/23/2006 2:24:15 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
A vulnerable and confused young man named Jesse MacBeth allowed himself to be used as a tool in a an anti-war video produced by an outfit called Peace Films, which was on their website yesterday. As of 232000Z MAY, the video was still up on YouTube. Watch a few minutes of it if you haven't yet. The powerhouse of the military arc of the blogosphere, Milblogs, was all over this yesterday, and demonstrated the power of subject matter experts with keyboards in debunking bogus bullshit before it could be picked up by the MSM and disseminated globally.
[Slightly off topic: As I write this, I'm listening to Greyhawk and Smash on Right Talk internet radio. Makes it tough to concentrate.]
This was a psychological operation run by the anti-war people, (you know, Cindy Sheehan, Charlie Sheen, ANSWER, and now the Vietnam Iraq Veterans Against the War), which, had it not been debunked so quickly and decisively, would have been picked up by the NY Slimes and CNN and seen in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan. People would have died over that. 17 people died in riots in Jalalabad last year over Newsweak's Koran-down-the-toilet lie. The rapid debunking of this propaganda saved lives.
This episode, in my mind, validates my whole concept of a Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group, a network of Fighting Keyboardists, active duty, retired, former military, and interested civilians blogging and linking and commenting and blogswarming the poser before he could get any traction. This is how enemy psyops directed at domestic audiences can be countered. Scanners find, pass it to SME's, and the findings are cussed, discussed, fact checked, validated and disseminated within HOURS. This kind of celerity, cooperation and coordination is distributed IO. The DoD IO/PA apparatus can't do this like we can.
Thanks, I don't doubt that there are cases like the one you cite, all I said was that we don't yet know what's relevant or irrelevant in this case, but we want to know ALL about this guy to determine the relevant facts of the story. We DO know he is a depraved hate-America propagandist who put out some very dangerous lies that could have gotten a lot of people killed. Actually, his lies still could get people killed since even the quick debunking here does not prevent the hate-America sites from spreading the tale, especially in the Middle East where there are NO SCRUPLES at all about using blatantly false propaganda. I would not be surprised at all to learn that Jesse Jihad's video turns up on some jihadist videos, etc. down the road -- they may not know or care how quickly and thoroughly he was debunked if they can put the story in front of ignorant audiences.
I am sure they will, since the truth doesn't matter to them, its all about promoting their cause. Wait, is that Liberals or Jihadists we are talking about, heh!.
This guy is a major scumbag and should be dealt with as sternly as possible. I believe there are legal avenues. As well, lets see what the Judge does to his sorry a$$..
Good find!
"Well, the "Beth" part of "MacBeth" is Middle Eastern."
Shouldn't it be spelled MacBh'th?
It's not a bad idea. God knows the DOD won't do it.
It took them several days to issue a lukewarm denial about this guy.
John Gibson on Fox News on this guy.
Further research has revealed that Jesse's mom has a substantial rap sheet under the names Leisha Charlene Campbell and Leisha Charlene Al-Zaid;
http://tinyurl.com/p5m2x
There are twelve complaints in all. They range from assault to "walking in the street." She seems to have spent time in jail.
Other records indicate that Jesse and his sister were involved in some custody proceedings. I couldn't quite figure out how they turned out.
Y's.
Really ODD! Bumpf or L8R
Turns out Jessie is a Boot Camp Drop out.
More than only the Arab part of the world. Europe has people de, d', da, etc.... someplace.
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