Posted on 05/23/2006 8:47:03 AM PDT by yooling
Here's a pretty cool video of one of the reproduction 262's flying at a German air show.
stormbirds.com ...
ME 262
Göring’s on the phone from Freiburg
Said Willie done quite a job
Hitler’s on the phone from Berlin
Says I’m gonna make you a star
My Captain Von Ondine is your next patrol
A flight of English bombers across the canal
After twelve they’ll all be here
I think you know the job
They hung there dependent from the sky
Like some heavy metal fruit
These bombers are ripe and ready to tilt
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Must they live that I might die
In a G-load disaster from the rate of climb
Sometimes I’d faint and be lost to our side
But there’s no reward for failure—but death
So watch me in mirrors keep me on the glidepath
Get me through these radars, no, I cannot fail
While my great silver slugs are eager to feed
I can’t fail—No, not now
When twenty five bombers wait ripe
They hung there dependent from the sky
Like some heavy metal fruit
These bombers are ripe and ready to tilt
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Must they live that I might die
ME 262 prince of turbojet
Junkers Jumo 004
Blasts from clustered R4/M quartets in my snout
And see these English planes go burn
Well, you be my witness, how red were the skies
When the fortresses flew for the very last time
It was dark over Westphalia
In April of ’45
They hung there dependent from the sky
Like some heavy metal fruit
These bombers are ripe and ready to tilt
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Must they live that I might die
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Junkers Jumo 004
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Junkers Jumo 004
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Junkers Jumo 004
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Junkers Jumo 004
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Junkers Jumo 004
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Junkers Jumo 004
Bombers at twelve o’clock high…
~ Blue Oyster Cult
(Sorry, it's the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title...) (More Cowbell!)
> I didn't think there was any flying condition 262's.
There probably aren't.
This aircraft is one of several from new production,
based on reverse-engineering during a static restoration
of an original, and other research. See:
http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html
They even gave them serial numbers starting where
Willy left off. The engines, however, are modern,
and I suspect they used different materials where
German wartime production used dangerous ones (like
dissimilar metals that would promote corrosion).
The Russian MIG 15 is also a German design.
I had no idea at all that anyone had a 262 that could get off the ground.
Next time, try it with more cowbell.
I was thinking the same thing. ME-262, Secret Treaties, B.O.C.
AUSGESEICHNET!
YEP!
RE : Engines...
J-85 The General Electric J-85/CJ-610 series turbojet engine is a benchmark in the advancement of pure jet technology.
The engine was originally designed in the 1960s for use in military applications. Shortly thereafter, civil certification and production followed under the CJ-610 designation.
The CJ-610 was quickly selected to power the popular Gates Learjet; meanwhile, its military cousin was called into service with such noteworthy combat aircraft as the F-5 Freedom Fighter and A-37 Dragonfly.
The resilience and forgiving qualities of the engine also made it a natural choice for training aircraft, and the J-85 was adopted for both the T-38 Talon and T-2J Buckeye.
Better than repro's..... Messerschmidt issued sequential new serial numbers from the end of the original Me-262 production for these new birds!
Ahhhh, you beat me too it! I should have read the rest of the thread first.
Cool ME 262 video ping!
I'm thinking the Russians stole that design from the English blueprints and designs of the first English fighter jet and its centrifugal compressor.
= )
This is for sure true although the Me 262 has a pretty bad acceleration. First of all she was (in 1944) damm fast and a marvelous weapon platform to smash bombers. I guess that the "fun-factor" in this plane is limited, altough it is still one of the most elegant designs.
My granddad flew the FW 190-D9 during the last days of the war. Extreme torque and extreme acceleration. A real thrill. Planes like this or American Mustangs or the Me 109 of my uncle (such warbirds are a black hole in the wallet of their owners - even my uncle who is for sure not a poor man is whining in the meantime :-)) are what most pilots are dreaming of.
Anyway the STORMBIRDS gave proof that you "crazy" Americans are the best what ever happened to the warbird-scene. :-)
THANKS FOR THE PING!!!!
The airframe design was by captured Germans. They already had the airframe design done. The engine was a copy of the latest British engine.
At the end of the war, Britain voted Churchill out, and the new Liberal PM sold two of the British engines to the Soviets as a good will gesture.
The Soviet engine was never put in the airplane until they had mad a copy of the British engine.
Thank the British PM for Korea.
This is definitly wrong. The first MiG 15 had a English turbine (produced in licence) but the design was a taken from a German Focke Wulf Ta 183. The famous German aircraft designer Kurt Tank was the "father" of the MiG 15.
Short story: I was visiting the Aircraft Museum at Tillimuk Oregon and wandered past the control tape across the tarmac to the refurbishment hanger. The crew were working of an A-26 and a PBY. The PBY was almost finished; the A-26 had 6-50 calibers in the nose and had just been buffed to bright mirror finish aluminum. Wow!
The guys, all in their 60's and 70's, were all wearing orange jumpsuits - and had a machine shop that would make any grown man cry. Milling machines, lathes, drill presses, metal brakes and shears and rack after rack of Snap-On tools. I damn near started to cry!!
They invited me to sit in both planes and chatted with me about how much fun their "work" was! Of course they all were doing it for free. Heck, I would have paid to be the "floor sweeper" in that shop!
I have always thought that that whole crew had a better handle on how to spend their "declining years" than most!!!
There was no "license". It was just reverse engineered.
Did-did-did-did you ever wonder
Why we had to run for shelter
When the promise of a brave new world
Unfurled beneath a clear blue sky.
- Pink Floyd, The Wall
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