The Eleven GOP Senators who voted to give Social Security to Illegals (Vanity)

no dems

[from occupied ga]

However, they are credited to the individual numbered SS account. The eventual benefits paid result from the total accrual. Social Security provides you a periodic statement detailing the amounts accrued to the penny. The more accrued, the more the benefits.

yes this is true your taxes are kept track of on an individual basis. However, It depends on how you look at it whether or not you have "benefits" accrued or simply a "promise to pay." Any funds that illegals have paid under phoney SS numbers aren't really sitting around waiting to be paid, but simply represent future claims that probably won't be made. The money ha already been spent.

[davidosborne]

if however we are referring to the overall bill being debated/ammended in the senate.. I think it is a little too soon to pass judgement on what the final product will be after the house/senate conference.... remember we got to get a product to conference FIRST...then we can reconcile the differences between the house/senate....

[from occupied ga]

I would like to know which vote and/or which ammendment is being referred to

Try asking nodems as he is the one who posted it. I simply assumed it to be true.

[bert]

.....The money ha already been spent.....

Money is all numbers on a page, electrical bits that get zapped from ledger to ledger.

[davidosborne]

I think many of the FReepers on this thread have done the same thing... we really need to be careful if we really want to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws.. we need to get a bill passed !! and we need 60 SENATORS to make it happen...

I am really tired of FReepers suggesting that a simple majority in the US Senate means we should be able to get a "conservative agenda" passed... this shows ignorance of the way things work in the US Senate....

BOTTOM LINE.... 60 in 06' !!!

[davidosborne]

I have both publicly and privately.. no response yet

[from occupied ga]

Money is all numbers on a page, electrical bits that get zapped from ledger to ledger.

I don't agree. Bookeeping is moving numbers on a page, but money spent is not on the right page anymore. The money that we all pay into SS is spent (ie numbers on someone else's page) as soon as we give it to the government, and what Kongress leaves us with is an iou.

If the illegals never make the claim against their phoney ss accts, then there really isn't any money sitting there. It's just a matter of IOUs that aren't going to get paid.

[LYSandra]

Makes it easy when they call me on phone to give money!

[no dems]

John McCain was on "Fox News Sunday". I watched the program and Chris Wallace asked him about his and 11 other GOP votes to give SS benefits to Illegal Aliens. He said, they paid the money in, they should get it. (Neither here nor there.)

The next day I read where someone posted the entire roll call vote here on Free Republic. I merely took the names of the 11 Pubbies off of that list and made a vanity post. SEE POST # 6 by So Cal Rocket on the following thread:

Illegals granted Social Security

The Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2006 | By Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/19/2006 11:56:06 AM PDT by Rick_Michael

[stainlessbanner]

Martinez - Bush's boy in FL

[TomasUSMC]

HOW MANY of these where part of the supreme court senate McCain Mutiny?

[MissEdie]

It'll probably be longer, here in SC people tend to stick with the incumbents regardless of how crappy they are.

[OldPossum]

Sorry to hear about that. I really am. That man just can't represent the majority of South Carolinians' views.

[MissEdie]

Trust me, he doesn't. It's just a case of a politician saying what he knows people want to hear in order to get elected.

[rwfromkansas]

I am pretty moderate on the immigration stuff, but I have to say, I am strongly opposed to giving social security to illegals.

Frankly, Brownback has really lost my support here.

[davidosborne]

What I am really interested in is the ACTUAL ammendemnt/roll call vote.. so I can research the debate and the vote itself..

David

I have not found an ammendment titled "Give Social Security to Illegals" ...

[davidosborne]

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 2nd Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate


Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Isakson Amdt. No. 3961 )
Vote Number: 121 Vote Date: May 16, 2006, 12:11 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3961 to S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 )
Statement of Purpose: To prohibit the granting of legal status, or adjustment of current status, to any individual who enters or entered the United States in violation of Federal law unless the border security measures authorized under Title I and section 233 are fully completed and fully operational.
Vote Counts: YEAs 40
NAYs 55
Not Voting 5
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

[nutmeg]

ping!

Brownback???

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

[davidosborne]

aparently this is the VOTE that is being discussed here.. From what I see this is not a vote to grant social security to illegals.... I am in no way trying to defend and RINOS that do not deserve defending.. but I think everyone should consider the possibility that this was defeated as part of a compromise which could have stopped the bill from getting to conference.. it is possible that this could be brought up again in conference assuming it is a provision in the HOUSE bill which I believe it is...

David

[Captainpaintball]

All it takes for evil to triumph is for Republicans to befriend, give in to, and act like, Democrats.