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Anti-war Poseur speaks out (Not a chance He's really a Ranger)
Blackfive ^ | Blackfive

Posted on 05/22/2006 11:52:25 AM PDT by 91B

Blackfive already has a good start on this and Protein Wisdom is all over it as well, but any help Freepers can give in outing this wannabe would be much appreciated.


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KEYWORDS: fakeranger; jessiemacbeth; kerrywannabe; lyingleftyfraud; macbeth; phonysoldier; poseur
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To: The Shrew

Thanks. Some nice work on this thread an the linked blogs...


101 posted on 05/23/2006 8:29:32 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times; Cannoneer No. 4; Old Sarge
New information from this blog: “Initial research by the U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg shows no Soldier with the name of Jesse Macbeth having ever been assigned to the Special Forces or the Army Rangers -- which are, in fact, two separate disciplines. This appears to be some sort of hoax. No Soldier by that name at Fort Lewis to our knowledge, in the past, either. Of course, the line about "go into the Army or go to jail" is vintage TV script not heard since the 1960s. There are also numerous wear and appearance issues with the Soldier's uniform -- a mix of foreign uniforms with the sleeves rolled up like a Marine and a badly floppy tan beret worn like a pastry chef. Of course, the allegations of war crimes are vague, as are the awards the Soldier allegedly received.” As quoted from Army spokesman John Boyce.
102 posted on 05/23/2006 8:47:38 AM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: 91B
Jesse Macbeth:

OWNED!!

103 posted on 05/23/2006 10:18:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: 91B

Good job Doc. Smoked this dupe out with a quickness.


104 posted on 05/23/2006 11:08:32 AM PDT by Army MP Retired (There Will Be Many False Prophets)
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To: 91B; All
This morning a Pierce County judge issued a bench warrant for MacBeth's arrest on charges of assault and violating a restraining order.
105 posted on 05/23/2006 11:10:44 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Politicalities

HA!!!! Hope the judge is a FReeper - THAT would be too sweet.


106 posted on 05/23/2006 11:27:25 AM PDT by Army MP Retired (There Will Be Many False Prophets)
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To: The Shrew
Synopsis with links posted at WinterSoldier.com...
107 posted on 05/23/2006 12:07:47 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Old Sarge
Struck down in his prime, by the Pajama Brigade.

108 posted on 05/23/2006 12:28:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: Old Sarge
MacBeth's video is still online:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

109 posted on 05/23/2006 1:26:29 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: USNBandit
I don't know how to post pix but if I did, I would post a pic of the Ranger wannabe next to Bert (of Bert and Ernie fame)

Separated at birth.
110 posted on 05/23/2006 2:20:29 PM PDT by silver charm (Do not be deceived, God can not be mocked. A man shall reap what he sows. Gal. 6:7)
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To: Old Sarge

"Another Winter Soldier. And he's being believed, just like JF'nK.
The Left is now figuring that, if someone is getting "swiftboated",
they must be the real thing."


Wrong on allowing hanoi kerry to once again attack our troops

"Yes, indeed- John Kerry thinks it's 1971 all over again. Yesterday, on "Face the Nation"
John Kerry once again slams American troops- Check it out-

"And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the-of-the historical customs, religious customs."

Here is the transcript for "Face the Nation"-

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_120405.pdf

You will find this statement at the bottom of page 4 and the top of page 5.


111 posted on 05/23/2006 3:49:24 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Support the troops by exposing the threats to them like hanoi kerry, Medea Benjamin and Code Pink)
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To: 91B
But few people know that Jesse MacBeth was also
in the Special Rocket Force Ranger Space Patrol!
This photograph proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt


112 posted on 05/23/2006 5:11:37 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (Give me Liberty or give me the ACLU)
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To: 300winmag

Good evening.

Does anyone know what the flash is supposed to be?

How can these people not know that they will be exposed?

Michael Frazier


113 posted on 05/23/2006 5:41:28 PM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

The video(s) keep getting posted, and then removed. Then they reappear. The links in post 109 were working a little while ago, but now they're down again. That site has/had the video in three segments.

I currently have a window open with the video posted at http://www.peacefilms.org . But I opened that window back when it was still working. It's down now. It's the whole video, in one piece.

I wish I knew how to save a flash video.

The video is of a fake Army Ranger, Jessie MacBeth, telling about the massacre he participated in, in Falluhjah. He's not the least bit convincing. He looks like a boy, and he stutters something fierce. He claims the order to massacre innocent Iraqi civilians came from high up the chain of command.

Bloggers from all over the Internet have torn this video apart. MacBeth is a war protester, with a criminal record. The day after the "massacre" in Falluhjah, he was in the States, prostesting against the war. During the "massacre," the unit he claims to be with was at Ft. Benning, GA.

At the end of the 2nd video, he uses the pronoun "us" when referring to Iraqis. "It's like mass genocide, on us."

In one of the videos, he says that he modeled himself on the Viet Nam vets. Eddie Murphy in Trading Places comes to mind.

Iraq Veterans Against the War had a link to the video. They've disabled that link, and are now claiming they knew nothing about the video, or Jessie MacBeth. But I saw his profile on their website (can't find the link now.) He's an active member there, and his profile was still posted on their site as of a couple hours ago. I'd have saved the link if I'd known then that they are now denying knowledge of him.

If you google his name, you might come up with an active site posting the video. Don't forget to check google news. Sometimes he spells his name Jessie, and sometimes Jesse. I think he also uses a variation on his last name, MacBeth, or McBeth.


114 posted on 05/23/2006 7:03:58 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: All

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/14812.html

ANOTHER FAKE SOLDIER TALE DEBUNKED
by Michelle Malkin
May 23, 2006 09:57 PM EST

Meet "Jessie MacBeth." He's the latest cause celebre of the anti-war Left -- a "former Army Ranger and Iraq war veteran" who accuses his fellow troops of committing a litany of atrocities against innocent civilians. Anti-Vietnam War veteran John Kerry and the Winter Soldiers cast a long shadow.

-snip-


115 posted on 05/23/2006 7:10:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Lots of callers to talk radio lately are claiming to be veterans."

This is a real problem because they are usually not identified other than first name and state. Who's to say? Some are propagandists, but very subtle, and doubtless delude lots of civvies even and/or esp. the host. They are fraudulently assuming identity and legitimacy conferred of real soldiers past, present and future and almost always to the detriment of same.
116 posted on 05/23/2006 7:27:41 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: BykrBayb

And the Democrat presidental nominee in 2036 (if he can find an heiress)


117 posted on 05/23/2006 7:31:12 PM PDT by Sapper26 (All men should marry, you can't blame everything on the government - Jed Clampett.)
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To: Sapper26

Do you know how to save a flash video?

I have a browser window open with the flash video. I can view it all I want. But it's been removed from the site, so if I refresh the page, it will disappear.


118 posted on 05/23/2006 7:36:58 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Sorry, haven't a clue. BTW I found this interesting tidbit on DU of all places. It seems that this "person's" real name was originally Al-Zaid - Irish I think.

If anyone has the guts here it is http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1264056


119 posted on 05/23/2006 7:45:32 PM PDT by Sapper26 (All men should marry, you can't blame everything on the government - Jed Clampett.)
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To: Sapper26

from a blog I'm looking at:

Little Green Football commentators have discerned thru birth records that this fellow’s birthname is Al Zaid. Looks like another ‘patriotic’ Muslim.

pat on May 23, 2006 at 2:06 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/top-picks/2006/05/22/anti-war-video-bogus



120 posted on 05/23/2006 7:57:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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