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Presidential Irresponsiblility
National Review Online ^ | 5/22/06 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 05/22/2006 7:06:35 AM PDT by wcdukenfield

05/21 07:44 PM According to today's Washington Post:

Hispanic voters, many of whom responded favorably to President Bush's campaign appeals emphasizing patriotism, family and religious values in Spanish-language media in 2004, are turning away from the administration on immigration and a host of other issues, according to a new survey.

At the same time, separate polls show that conservative white Republicans are the voting group most hostile to the administration's support for policies that would move toward the legalization of many undocumented immigrants.

More here .

For all the talk about Karl Rove's brilliance, it was a blunder of monumental proportions to force a confrontation on illegal immigration now—a relative few months before the midterm elections—in a way that enrages both the conservative base and a liberal constituency against Republicans. The president has endangered scores of Republicans, some of whom are excellent public servants. And depending on how this turns out legislatively, he may have done lasting damage to the Republican party.

But Rove and Bush are not alone. John McCain has spent a decade undermining the GOP and thumbing his nose at the conservative base. The McCain-Feingold bill had as one of its primary purposes the weakening of the party structure, which was never of much use to McCain especially after the party rejected his presidential run in 2000. On issue after issue, McCain has led the so-called Senate moderates to undermine and ambush the Senate's thin Republican majority and even thinner conservative plurality, positioning himself as some kind of independent and progressive. He uses the media to draw attention to himself, and the media use him to highlight his anti-conservatism. And here he is again, pushing the most radical transformation of our society in recent history.

The Senate Republicans have never figured out how to put McCain in box. And so their ranks are splintering even more. We now get lectures from the likes of Chuck Hagel and Lindsey Graham, who in past Senate's would have been rightly seen as light-weights. Arlen Specter humiliated himself among his conservative colleagues to persuade them to support his ascendancy to head of the Judiciary Committee. He uses that post to trash the president's commander-in-chief powers. In 2004, Lincoln Chafee announced that he wouldn't be voting for the president, and he votes repeatedly with the Democrat minority. If Rove and Bush hadn't supported Specter in the Republican primary in Pennsylvania, conservative Pat Toomey may well be filling the seat. Today, Bush's RNC is backing Chafee in the Republican primary in Rhode Island against Cranston Mayor Stephen Laffey, a conservative. And there are others.

So now the Republican president and the Republican Senate are cobbling together an illegal-immigration bill that will badly damage both the Republican party and the country. The bill would make permanent so-called temporary guest-workers as they wouldn't have to return home (so much for going to the back of some imagined line); it would expand greatly the number of legal aliens invited to come to our country by tens of millions (apparently there's no end to the number of jobs Americans won't do); it would legalize virtually all of the 11 million illegal aliens currently in our country (the number is probably much greater); it would apply Davis-Bacon union wage requirements on jobs performed by so-called temporary workers (so much for cheap labor and cheap lettuce); it would confer Social Security benefits on immigrants for the period of time they were working using stolen or fake Social Security numbers (but it's not amnesty, they tell us); and it wouldn't recognize English as the nation's official language (so much for promised assimilation). And, of course, the same federal politicians and bureaucracy that won't and/or can't enforce the current law assure us that they'll manage and enforce a far more complicated, multi-tier, multi-level system involving far more people.

Meanwhile, we're supposed to accept all of this and more in exchange for what is essentially a sound-bite about using a few thousand National Guardsmen on the border—who are not going to be doing border enforcement. A 370-mile fence will supposedly be built, leaving about 85% of the southern border without a physical fence. But there will be sensors and gliders that will presumably get an accurate count of the number of illegal aliens crossing our border since there won't be enough physical barriers to stop them or border agents to apprehend them.

And the primary culprit in all of this—the Mexican government—will continue to insist that America isn't doing enough and America is not a friendly neighbor. It will continue to send its lawyers into our courtrooms to challenge any effort to stem the mass exportation of Mexico's poor to our country. And why not? Let Americans pay for the public services Mexico refuses to confer on its own people. And the illegal aliens in the U.S. send billions of dollars back to Mexico, which helps prop-up its socialist economy. Besides, so much of the United States really belongs to Mexico, doesn't it? But for American imperialism under the presidency of James Polk, we'd all be speaking Spanish now. The Mexican government is playing a nasty game with its people, and our government is complicit. There’s nothing compassionate or humane about our government’s timidity in dealing with Mexico’s ruling class.

So, what motivates Rove and Bush? It can't be politics, can it? Surely they don't honestly believe that securing 40% of the votes of a growing ethnic minority is a path to continued majority status? And surely they're aware that despite Ronald Reagan granting amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal aliens, that wasn't enough to ensure the political allegiance of a majority of Hispanic voters. In recent decades, Republicans have had a difficult time figuring out how to convince minorities to support them. Apparently Rove and Bush, not to mention McCain, et al, have decided the best approach is to parrot liberals. Therefore, they support making that which is illegal legal, pretend to care about border security, and are spreading around benefits and entitlements.

Yes, we’re a nation of immigrants, like every other nation. But our government has never acted so irresponsibly. In the past, our country decided what kind of immigrants it needed and wanted. Today, illegal immigrants and foreign nations bring pressure on our politicians because they know it will respond favorably to their demands. America’s political class has never been so frivolous about U.S. citizenship and sovereignty, and so contemptible of the will of the American people. This is why the Republican majority will likely pay a severe price in November, even though conservatives like Jeff Sessions and Jim Sensenbrenner, among many others, are fighting the good fight and trying to save the day, while liberals get a free ride.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; allwhinenow; borders; bush; enforcethelaws; hagel; mccain; mexico; senate; specter; wakeupyouclowns
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To: taxed2death
[ that's the freaking 10 ton elephant in the corner of the room ]

True.. I watch to see or even detect an attitude that recognizes that(10 ton elephant) with those that talk of single issue voters.. You know the ones.. That assume a "higher knowledge", deeper and wider in scope than the single issue voter can detect..(meaning those upset with Bushs immigration, LACK of intelligent policy)

They seem to be clueless.. and they're freepers too.. Amazing to me.. that they absolutely REFUSE to see that multi millions of brand new democrats is NOT A GOOD THING.. actually a tragic thing.. Denial?.. I don't know.. Anywhere else I might say so, but not here(FR).. Cognitive Dissonance I think.. has to be.. What good is a War (over there) when your house is being broken into and occupied?(over here).. Duuugh.. The War(s) "there" are secondary, vote fraud "here" by aliens due to made legal is primary..

The White RINO House bogarding this issue is also a mystery.. actually lobbying for MORE Illegal and Legal Insurgents than less.. MORE?..

Little wonder that Washington D.C. is in such disarray if that can go on HERE(FR), with people that I KNOW should know more.. no newbies either.. With most freepers you'd have SHOOT many of them before they would vote for a democrat.. or threaten their familys with harm.. YET they cannot see that multi millions of Illegal and Legal Insurgents(democrats) would change ANY hope of ANY republican relevance.. It Must be FEAR.. they are afraid of the democrats.. instead of the democrats being AFRAID OF THEM..

More than that they cannot see that elected republican officals need to be Afraid of THEM.. more than they(officials) are afraid of the democrats.. True that the democrats in control of Congress for two years can/would commit a LOT of mischief.. But something MUST happen before 2008.. Something MUST happen to republican incumbents that survive 2006.. not democrats.. The democrats are beyond help, or they would not even BE democrats..

Amnesty in ANY form to Illegal or even Legal Insurgents will make them democrats.. Central and South Americans are NOT Cubans.. At least "some" Cubans have had their fill of socialism.. not all of them even.. I have lived in South Florida and California.. different people entirely.. Few threads bring that out either.. Central and South Americans are prime candidates for socialism.. Mexicans in particular..

141 posted on 05/22/2006 6:34:48 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: trubluolyguy; lemura; brytlea; Edgar3
Whaaa! They are not doing 100% of only what I want! Whaaa!

New day, same tired out old whining from the same tired out old Freepers in the Always Bitching crowd.

Gee what is it? You figure if you just keep screaming the same nonsense long enough your knee jerk 100% Bush haters political temper tantrum will somehow become politically relevant?

I suggest you people try being FOR something one time. Then maybe we will pay attention to you.

All you people ever do is bitch, bitch bitch. Same exact post over and over and over and over. No matter the issue, the SAME exact whining. Gee why waste our time? We all ready KNOW what your position is going to be before the issue even comes up. The ONLY difference between you and the Dems is what you bitch about. That both you and they are just going to endlessly bitch what ever the GOP does is all ready known by us. Preaching mindlessly to the Whine All The Time choir does ONE thing, bore the rest of us to distraction

142 posted on 05/22/2006 8:14:07 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservative, The simple fact about DC is this . "There is more work to do"...)
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To: MNJohnnie

New day, same tired out old whining from the same tired out old Freepers in the Always Bitching crowd.



And how are you this fine evening? It's a beautiful night. I do wish you a peaceful night.


143 posted on 05/22/2006 8:19:23 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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To: MNJohnnie

I suggest you people try being FOR something one time. Then maybe we will pay attention to you.



Thats a GREAT idea. Really it is. I am for the rule of law and CONSERVATIVE politicians. How about you? {:o)


144 posted on 05/22/2006 8:24:35 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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To: wcdukenfield

Does anyone see that the globalists have already decided who our next president will be and are already taking steps to make sure it comes to pass?


145 posted on 05/22/2006 8:29:04 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: trubluolyguy
I see. The fact that your side lost the vote in the Senate 40-55 means NOTHING. Better to just scream endlessly and get NOTHING done so the existing DO Nothing system stays in place and we can hear the same collect of Know Nothings mindlessly bitch about 20 or 30 or 40 million illegals for the next 4 years.

Adults understand the need to GET SOME THINGS DONE rather then just throw a childish temper tantrum because their emotion based dogma is not being imposed on everyone around them by decree. That is NOT how a Constitutional Republic works.

The Always Whining better wise up. They are headed on a course where you will get 100% of NOTHING thus leaving the existing system in place. The same system that created the mess they bitch endlessly about NOW. They win and you people LOSE if that happens.

146 posted on 05/22/2006 8:33:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservative, The simple fact about DC is this . "There is more work to do"...)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well you just have a wonderful evening now. I know I will. See ya tomorrow! {:o)


147 posted on 05/22/2006 8:35:18 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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To: taxed2death; hosepipe

I find your comments very interesting.
My questions is "Why?" Why are Bush and company doing this?!


148 posted on 05/22/2006 9:01:14 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl
[ My questions is "Why?" Why are Bush and company doing this?! ]

Exactely.. 180 degress out from their own partys benefit..
Unless that is the plan?.. Occams Razor demands that it is "the Plan"..

149 posted on 05/22/2006 10:44:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: MNJohnnie
All you people ever do is bitch, bitch bitch. Same exact post over and over and over and over. No matter the issue, the SAME exact whining. Gee why waste our time? We all ready KNOW what your position is going to be before the issue even comes up. The ONLY difference between you and the Dems is what you bitch about. That both you and they are just going to endlessly bitch what ever the GOP does is all ready known by us. Preaching mindlessly to the Whine All The Time choir does ONE thing, bore the rest of us to distraction

If you would actually look at my posts, dating back to early 2001, you would see that your accusation is off. But then again, you would probably think that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, et al were constant bitchers too.
Seriously though, thank you for your service to our country, Johnnie. You're a good American.
150 posted on 05/23/2006 3:25:07 AM PDT by Edgar3 (Constitutional Republic, or die)
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To: krunkygirl; MNJohnnie; hosepipe
"My questions is "Why?" Why are Bush and company doing this?!"

__________________________________________________________

My personal feeling is that it is driven by pure greed. Follow the money. Who (which lobbyists) are actively paying the Pubs (and Dum-o-crats for that matter) to see to it that this country is stockpiled with "cheap" labor.

If you imagine there is a "scale" and sovereignty is on one side...and socialism is on the other side....we are definitely at the "tipping point". Instead of this scale listing 15 degrees to port or 15 degrees to starboard...it is now ready to roll over.

My point about the 10 ton elephant tiptoeing around the oval office is that people like MHJohnnie while his heart is in the right place...still refuse to see the obvious. If GWB grants these people a "pathway to citizenship" this number of people multiplied by 16 will absolutely be the demise of the Republican party. Any sane person who steps back from the nonsense, screaming and name calling in these threads and takes a reasoned look at these figures simply can not deny it.

I do not believe there is one answer to why GWB is so insistent on selling our sovereignty...it appears like there are many forces at play.

Could this be the way to save the ultimate Ponzi scheme of social security?

Who knows...it sure seems like an all or nothing proposition though....wouldn't you agree?


Another really big issue to consider is this:
Can you imagine if the borders are not secured what will happen in 10 years?

AFTER we have made these people "legal"...AFTER they have begun to import more people who are largely unschooled and are only suitable for the most menial of jobs....what happens when 15 million, or 20 million MORE illegals stroll in across our border?
If there is no border enforcement...and if there is no workplace / employment enforcement. These people we we will soon be granting "amnesty" to , will be without jobs....

They will be replaced by the new group of illegals coming across. Can you begin to fathom the strain on social services / schooling / housing / hospitals/ prisons...all of which are paid for by the taxpayer. Our tax rate will shoot right past that of the UK and the worst of the Uro-peee-on socialist crap-holes.

It is for this reason that in MY OPINION....it really does not matter who occupies the white house in the next term....IF this SHAMNESTY is made into law. There will be such a tidal wave of humanity piled on to the backs of American tax payers that we're not likely to be able to come up for air. Ever. I feel sorry for those hard core b-bots....they can't see the forest because of the trees.
151 posted on 05/23/2006 4:42:53 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Why are you so fascinated with us? ;)
susie


152 posted on 05/23/2006 8:29:18 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: taxed2death
HELLO, tax2death.. (this is a recording)..

Press "1" for English;
press "2" for Spanish;
press "3" for Spanglish;
press "4" for Mandarin Chinese;
press "5" for India's languages;
press "6" for Moonbat logic;

press "7" for a musical medley of when America used to be a FREE REPUBLIC..

press "8" to talk to an agent of the World Capitalist Socialist Republic in French..

153 posted on 05/23/2006 8:53:21 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: brytlea
Spending on border security would come under the heading of SUPPOSED to.

You can bet your boots someone would complain about it though.

154 posted on 05/23/2006 9:51:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: trubluolyguy
And BTW, you build that wall well enough, and you really won't need to hire all that many more border guards.

You and I think this is a great idea. I'm sure we would both agree there'd be many in this country who would have a hissy fit. Doesn't matter what a President does, there are people who are going to be ticked off.

Agree or disagree, at least Bush isn't driven by polls, but by what he thinks is the right thing to do.

155 posted on 05/23/2006 9:54:33 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

LOL someone will always complain! ;)
susie


156 posted on 05/23/2006 10:58:08 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Cobra64

I agree. I have no quarrel with Bush's character. I think he would be a fun guy to go out and have a beer with but that does not mean that he has not seriously damaged this country.


157 posted on 05/23/2006 3:49:57 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: taxed2death

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Your characterization of the illegals who are here, and the millions upon millions more who are poised to come, is, I think, correct: unschooled, unskilled people who will ultimately be a huge drain on our tax payer supported social, "entitlement" programs.
I have heard several people on at least two recent talk shows say that studies(I cannot quote who or what studies) show that, contrary to what some have said, these illegals, and their hangers-on family members, WILL NOT save or delay the imperiled Social Security system. Quite the contrary.
So, that arguement can be completely shot down.

The other reality seems to me to be that this will give the Democrats control of the country for forever. I don't see how it can be any other way.

Like you, I cannot fathom how Bush supporters of his recent proposal fail to see that.

How does President Bush fail to see that?
What America does he want his daugthers and their children to live in?!

I just do not understand it.


158 posted on 05/23/2006 7:24:38 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: MNJohnnie
Regan understood how to use incremental ism, all you people know how to do is cry because you don't only get 100% of what you want right NOW.

Umm, Johnnie. The incrementalism is in the *wrong* direction.

And it is much more than merely incremental.

When was the last time you saw the Senate fly directly in the face of the wishes of 65-70% of the electorate, across party lines?


159 posted on 05/25/2006 11:34:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LibWrangler
yet they are being allowed to articulate the tone (hatefilled rhetoric) and agenda of the Republican party.

You are a troll.

160 posted on 05/25/2006 11:37:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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