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'In God We Trust' goes missing
The Dallas Morning News ^ | May 20, 2006 | WFAA-TV

Posted on 05/20/2006 9:07:52 AM PDT by Phil Harmonic

'In God We Trust' goes missing

School plays it safe with yearbook cover photo

08:37 AM CDT on Saturday, May 20, 2006 WFAA-TV

The freedom of religion at Liberty Elementary School has gone too far for some parents at the Colleyville school.

The cover of the Keller ISD school's annual depicts the 2005 Liberty Nickel – complete with the face of Thomas Jefferson – but the words "In God We Trust" are missing.

Instead, the $16 yearbook contains a sticker with the credo and directions on how to apply it to the cover if the owner chooses.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


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To: grey_whiskers

>>Wherein I point out that the national motto is "E Pluribus Unum."

>...and then call it 1950's PC claptrap.

Sigh. No, I didn't Please pay attention. Since you failed that utterly that easily, there's no point in picking apart the rest of your ad hominem-laced post.


101 posted on 05/21/2006 8:22:28 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Candor7

>>We do not suggest multilating people because of their beliefs.

> Yes we do TROLL, when the use of totalitarian methods are used to ram the liberal wing nut socialist beliefs down the throats of children in their formative years...


Who's the troll here? Remember, you're suggesting that someone shoudl be tortured and mutilated because you don't like the cover on a school yearbook.


102 posted on 05/21/2006 8:24:48 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
TROLL.

Sigh. No, I didn't Please pay attention. Since you failed that utterly that easily, there's no point in picking apart the rest of your ad hominem-laced post.

Cut and paste of YOUR contribution to post 13:

E Pluribus Unum. "In God We Trust" is 1950's PC pap.

1950's PC claptrap ~ 1950's PC pap. Minor misquote, not changing the substance of your remark: both versions are disparaging of the In God We Trust motto.

And you still never acknowledged that the 1950's provenance of the motto was refuted in posts 20 and 21.

And you still never replied to the point-blank question in post 88.

Let's go through the "troll checklist" on this:

1. Posting assertions directly contradictory to the purposes and spirit of Free Republic. (+) Check.
2. Attempted thread hijacking. Check.
3. Selective misquotation of your own posts, where the original information is trivially available to refute you. Check.
4. Ignoring direct yes-or-no questions from others about your opinions (see post 88 this thread). Check.
5. For the win...it is neither a crevo thread nor an immigration thread. Check.

Yup. Troll.

Ummm... are you aware that the dollar shown in post 66 is simply a modification of the one shown in post 57?

Yes, that's why I pointed it out. Post 57 showed the word "GOD" in place of the word "One" in a genuine one-dollar bill, and rearrange the words "In" and "We Trust" to be above and below it. So that the GOD assumes center stage on the currency. If you were really trying to make the point about the DID (deity identification)TM on the one dollar bill, you'd have photoshopped the orignal dollar bill and its small font "In God We Trust". Since you chose the image of the caricature of the Atheist's-View Dollar, my comment stands. As the late WW II Army Cartoonist Bill Mauldin said, "I build a shoe. If someone else wants to put it on and loudly announce that it fits, that's their business."

Wow. That's truly inspired rhetoric.

It beats the hell out of yours. And it was humorous. See post 87.

Cheers!

(+) See here for a statement by Jim Robinson. Note especially the parts about "pro-God", "God-given", and "traditional way of life". Belief in God and public proclamation of belief in God, even by major political figures in their official capacity, are traditional. And "In God We Trust" dating back to the Civil War era is (by now) traditional.

103 posted on 05/21/2006 9:30:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Phil Harmonic

I propose a solution for the atheists. We change the phrase to "IF GOD WE TRUST"


104 posted on 05/21/2006 11:50:23 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Reeses
They could've taken the Dr. Pepper way out and claimed there "wasn't room"

"...WE TRUST"

105 posted on 05/21/2006 11:51:39 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Phil Harmonic
'In God We Trust' goes missing

Soon to be replaced with "Praise Allah" (which really means "Hail Satan")

106 posted on 05/21/2006 11:52:04 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 108-112)
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To: orionblamblam
Now, if'n I'd had to make an "S"... I woulda bagged it.

I wondered howcome you didn't use Zeus instead of Odin.

Now I know. :^)

107 posted on 05/21/2006 12:00:49 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: orionblamblam
And here's another hint for you to ponder: recognition of fact does not make one "anti-Christian."

Your "fact" was disproven. But your attacks persist.

'Political correctness' is NOT a catch all phrase to define what the ruling power sets as agenda.

Political correctness is the institutionalizing of the liberal agenda into our schools, offices, government, and culture. To dissent from the liberal viewpoint (as set forth by damned intellectuals) is to be politically incorrect. For now, there is "tolerance" of the politically incorrect but you must undergo political re-education under the label of "diversity training".

108 posted on 05/21/2006 12:00:57 PM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Phil Harmonic
I don't think you realize we are arguing over a sovereign currency that is about to vanish in a few years anyway, when we become a border less "Trade Zone" with a new currency to reflect that we have become but an entity inside a Trade Zone with a common currency rather like the Euro.
109 posted on 05/21/2006 12:11:00 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: goodnesswins
It's amazing. The disconnect between using the word 'god' and establishing a religion is lost on too many people who, if they knew their history and the intent behind the establishment clause, would never make that mistake.
110 posted on 05/21/2006 12:12:52 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Phil Harmonic

I'm just wondering if everyone at the meeting where this was decided as able to keep a straight face.


111 posted on 05/21/2006 12:15:36 PM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: MosesKnows
This is what their sticker makes me think of:

Students should WRITE their own motto in the blank void provided them by their spineless educators.

Perhaps write: "This space left blank under feared threat of activist court order" with a arrow pointing at the blank spot. Tape a nickel to the cover for comparison.

The students will have those yearbooks for years. Let them reflect on this time period.

112 posted on 05/21/2006 12:18:31 PM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Nowhere Man

It's about incrementalism. They may not be able to get "In God We Trust" off the US nickel but they can get it off a public school's yearbook cover.

They'll take their victories where the can get them.


113 posted on 05/21/2006 12:23:38 PM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: MissAmericanPie

We'll all go to electronic debit/credit/transfer anyway.

I guess they'll have to give the homeless card readers so you can give them "something".


114 posted on 05/21/2006 12:28:55 PM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: weegee

"In God we Trust" sure won't be on the cards. The record of every phone call you have made is on file, and you think this Beast is going to be satified with a mere card that can be lost, duplicated, or stolen?

I promise you, you best get ready for some type of chip shoved where the sun don't shine. It will contain everything, it will be your debit card, contain your nation of origin, list any health problems, your level of education, your religion of preference, it's gps will tell them where you are at any time, and what group you are meeing with. This will have to do until a way is found to crack your skull and read your every thought the way things are goind.


115 posted on 05/21/2006 2:01:49 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie

No chip. Biometrics. Fingerprints onfile. It'l also let them treat everyone documented as a suspect in all unsolved crimes.


116 posted on 05/21/2006 2:22:34 PM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: MissAmericanPie

BTTT


117 posted on 05/21/2006 2:22:55 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Your cutting and pasting defeats your own arguement. From Post 100:

Me: Wherein I point out that the national motto is "E Pluribus Unum."

You: ...and then call it 1950's PC claptrap.

However, as you yourself jsut pointed out, I said no such thing. From post 13: "In God We Trust" is 1950's PC pap.

So, which is it... are you just plain not very observant... or are you a troll just looking to screech and hollar? Given your recent record, the second option is clearly the more likely one.

You're a troll.


118 posted on 05/21/2006 2:47:11 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: weegee

> Your "fact" was disproven.

No, it wasn't. From Wikipedia:

"In God We Trust" is the current national motto of the United States of America and of the Great State of Florida. It was so designated by an act of Congress in 1956 and officially supersedes "E Pluribus Unum" (From Many, One) according to United States Code, Title 36, Section 302. President Eisenhower signed the resolution into law on 30 July 1956.

So, once again... IGWT only became the national motto in the 1950's. The fact that it showed up here and there prior to that does not negate that point.


119 posted on 05/21/2006 2:50:21 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
Re-read post 103.

You are mis-quoting my own admission of error, right in the open, where other people can verify for themselves what happened. And then claiming that the mis-quote establishes me as a troll.

This will not enhance your already low reputation on this thread.

And even after that, ignoring your own errors and changing the subject--posts 21, 22 refute your post 13; and leaving post 88 unaddressed--
Those are the true marks of a troll.

(And a singularly inept one at that. As Wolfgang Pauli once said, "It's not even wrong.")

Returning to the true subject of the thread, "In God We Trust" was not, and is not, an endorsement of any sect, creed, or faith by the school. It is merely an accurate reproduction of what already appears on the face of the US 5 -cent coin.

For the principal to remove that portion of the coin's face from the yearbook cover, on their own authority, is unjustifiable.

Even by a troll.

Cheers!

120 posted on 05/21/2006 4:48:38 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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