Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Immigration Reform...What Say You Now FReepers?
FR | 5-19-06 | Bob J

Posted on 05/19/2006 9:18:31 AM PDT by Bob J

Be Careful What You Wish For

So, we get 350 miles of fence...the Dems and Immigration proponents everything else. I knew this was going to turn out bad. By elevating the issue of illegal immigration to a crisis level, immigration reform advocates have handed the dems and the immigration lobby the vehicle by which they will really open the floodgates and naturalize 120 million new potential dem voters over the next 20 years.

Ths was never going to work. The House and Senate simply have too many RINO's to effect the kind of change that reformists dreamed of. Anyone who thought it would was blind. Thanks for the effort, but the strategery wasn't thought all the way through.

By bringing the immigration question to the top of the table, they have handed the dems a bat with which to beat us over the head for the next 20 years. Conservative and pub reformists looking for real progress and change will be characterized in the media as meanspirited racists and bigots while the dems nickel and dime the legislation and take the teeth out of any new law. They will be portrayed as the real champions.

Hope you like the fence...it's all we'll get.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushbotswin; ignoretheprotesters; immigranlist; vanity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180181-195 last
To: StarFan

The pubs should be all over the TV right now talking about how the dems are blocking any chance at real reform on the immigration issue. The don't and won't because they don't know how to play the game and quite frankily, have gotten comfortable with snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.


181 posted on 05/19/2006 7:46:05 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | View Replies]

To: Bob J

lol lol


182 posted on 05/19/2006 7:53:08 PM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 178 | View Replies]

To: Bob J
Are you saying because some illegals commit crimes that makes it okay to shoot any of them on sight?

Not sure about the "shooting on sight" issue, but all illegals are commiting a crime just by being in the US. The criminal issue is not disputable.

183 posted on 05/19/2006 7:53:17 PM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all businesses that close for the May 1st illegal alien march!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies]

To: Bob J
The pubs should be all over the TV right now talking about how the dems are blocking any chance at real reform on the immigration issue.

Couldn't agree more and if they tuned in to O'Reilly, they would have heard Gingrich recommend precisely that. I pray with the bleak prospects we keep hearing about come November, they grow some spine.

Perhaps they're doing just that as I see that Rep. Charlie Norwood (R) will debate immigration with Lindsey Graham on MTP Sunday. I would have preferred Charlie debate a dem Senator but the RINO is a close second. However on Face The Nation, the debate will be between Sensenbrenner and Durbin which, IMHO is must see TV.

184 posted on 05/19/2006 9:38:03 PM PDT by StarFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 181 | View Replies]

To: Ohioan
George Washington used the uncrowded, less hurried life style, over here, as a talking point for the desired type of European settlement. Think about that the next time you get tied up in Urban Gridlock, while driving a short distance.

The lessons of George Washington always come in handy when stuck in traffic.

185 posted on 05/19/2006 9:53:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: Bob J
Are you saying illegals should be shot on sight by civilians for crossing the border?

Not unless they shot first.

186 posted on 05/20/2006 12:20:06 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: coladirienzi

Acid rain.


187 posted on 05/20/2006 10:05:23 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Bob J
Give a pol a hard time, get change for a day. Teach a voter the truth, get change for a lifetime.

Well. Two pearls of wisdom. I vote for both. Change today to hold the line and if you can find Chafee/Snowe/Collins/Hagel/McCain/Voinovich/DeWine voters that are educatable (good luck) lets make a plan to teach them the truth. This issue certainly has enough substance.

188 posted on 05/20/2006 10:17:36 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: SwordofTruth; Bob J
It hasn't passed the house yet...
My first thought as well. Come on, man, stand strong! The fat lady hasn't sung yet.
189 posted on 05/20/2006 12:30:57 PM PDT by philman_36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Bob J; Les_Miserables; Marine Inspector; Glenn; Sir Gawain; lemura; DoughtyOne; Carry_Okie; ...
Give a pol a hard time, get change for a day. Teach a voter the truth, get change for a lifetime.

The truth? Is that the gage you want to measure this by?

If so, then you're finally at the root of the problem. 80% of us may see the truth differently than you do.

Now what?

190 posted on 05/20/2006 3:27:35 PM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 188 | View Replies]

To: WatchingInAmazement
80% of us may see the truth differently than you do.

I'm part of that 80% - a lifetime of voting for the GOP candidates, now complete disillusionment after realizing there's not really a "two party system" anymore. It's all smoke and mirrors, and many see through it now.

I never thought I would see the day when an American president put the demands of a third world dump over the wishes of the voters who elected him. This president's goal is clear now, and it's not what the majority of Americans want for our country.

191 posted on 05/20/2006 4:33:19 PM PDT by janetgreen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 190 | View Replies]

To: philman_36

"Come on, man, stand strong! The fat lady hasn't sung yet."

No, but she's warming up.


192 posted on 05/21/2006 10:52:04 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies]

Comment #193 Removed by Moderator

To: WatchingInAmazement

Be clear, I'm not sure which side of the debate you are on. You don't want the RINOs dumped out of the cart? Are you party driven or ideology driven? Truth isn't a matter of perception though actions are clearly framed by perception of the truth.


194 posted on 05/22/2006 10:00:43 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 190 | View Replies]

To: rlmorel

Actually President Bush did, when he proposed immigration reform in the form of his "not-an-amnesty" amnesty.


195 posted on 05/22/2006 10:04:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180181-195 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson