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Another Government power grab of your rights: Dog Ownership
Responsible Dog Owners of the Western States ^ | Cherie Groves, chairwoman

Posted on 05/18/2006 6:44:12 AM PDT by ventana

CIVIL RIGHTS THREATENED BY DANGEROUS DOG LAWS, AND BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION

We citizens of the United States of America are still engaged in a civil rights struggle. This struggle knows no racial boundaries, it knows no social status, it knows no financial status. It affects every person, from the poorest, to the most affluent, from the city dweller, to the largest land owner. It goes to our most ancient and traditional property, and to our ownership and use rights in animals. Dog/animal ownership is as varied, as is the human tapestry that bonds our great nation.

When we site the adage, "Punish the Deed, not the Breed", we are actually encouraging legislatures to hold animals responsible for their actions. Dangerous dog laws remove the human factor, and concentrate solely upon the dog, not taking into consideration that the dog is the responsibility of it's owner. Lawmakers go to great lengths to describe, and to define animal behaviors, and to then punish said behaviors. It is far more reasonable to write laws that are directed at the dog owner, rather than the dog.

Our laws must be written for we human beings. Laws must be reasonable. Animals must not be criminalized under laws that are intended to protect human rights, and to control human behaviors. It is unreasonable to write animal behavior into laws that no animal has the capacity to understand, answer to, or to function under.

It is unreasonable to mete out criminal labels to animals, i.e. dangerous, or potentially dangerous. It is unreasonable to proscribe punishments to animals under our laws. We must bring this writing of animal behaviors into our laws to a halt, and demand that humans be held accountable, not animals. We must stop thinking that it is a better trade off than prohibitions on dog ownership. We are wrong. Neither is a good choice.

No dog is capable of understanding, or answering to any law that has ever been written. Dangerous dog laws that hold a dog to a set of written regulations that it will never respond is a perfect set up to promote animal rights, where an animal is given a legal position under the law to conform, or to behave in a proscribed manner. Laws are not in the realm of the understanding of even the most intelligent dog. To set forth behavioral acceptability, and punishments for animals is to elevate them to a human level under law. This is just exactly what the animal rights movement wants. When we accept dangerous dog laws, we are hugging the serpent. Our laws must only be written to proscribe human behavior. We must see dangerous dog laws that hold animals to accountability under the law for what they are. As the law elevates animals, it devalues human beings. The animal rights movement expects us to fight breed specific legislation, and to promote dangerous dog laws, and we have done just that, undermining our own civil rights.

Neither should we allow prohibitions on the responsible ownership of any dog by breed. It violates the XIV Amendment, equal treatment, equal protection. The taking of dogs by breed is only the beginning of the eventual removal of all animals from our ownership, and use. Animals are among the most ancient of our traditional property, when government decides to remove our ownership rights, it will be piecemeal, not whole hog. Think for a moment what would happen if your city, or county government stipulated that all dogs must be forfeit. People would stand up, and put an immediate stop to that. It would immediately be recognized as an assault on our civil rights, whereas the taking of dogs by breed doesn't engender the same recognition.

Breed specific dog laws appear on the surface to be about dogs, but upon closer examination we discover that BSL is all about we human owners of dogs. It's about government invading the sanctity of our homes, and our property, and removing animals that we consider to be a part of our family. It is about government criminalizing the ownership of dogs by breed. It is about the taking from we, the people, all of the numerous breeds, and mixed breeds of dogs that are now named in breed specific prohibitions, or restrictions in venues across the United States at this very time. Prohibitions on the ownership of dogs can overlap to become prohibitions on all animals. There are no stop-gaps built into breed specific legislation to prevent an overlap.

Laws must give us the right to due process of law. BSL in Denver, Kennewick, and many places across the United States remove animals for no reason other than breed, from responsible owners, with no charges of negligence, and no opportunity to have a case, or to have the case heard in the Courts. BSL allows warrantless searches, and seizures of private property for no reason other than the breed of dog involved. BSL violates the Constitutional right to recompense for property taken by government for public use, i.e. public safety. New Jersey is proposing to have special licensing to own dog breeds. A license is a temporary revocable permit that allows the licensee to have something, or to do something that would be illegal to have, or to do without the license. It makes dog ownership illegal. It turns over all ownership, and use rights to the licensing agency which can at any time, inspect, confiscate, suspend, revoke, or halt issuance of the license. Licensure is a taking by government without compensation.

Those who own the target breeds are set apart, are vilified, and made to look like criminals, so that the rest of society will not be troubled by the government's taking of the dogs. The owners of these targeted breeds are victims of hate crimes, initiated by government. Communities will actually endorse the taking of dogs, not realizing that other breeds of dogs are going to be added to the growing list of restricted, or prohibited dogs. The targeted dogs are purportedly endowed with mythical powers that no other breed of canine can match. The surrounding myth would make these dogs so omnipotent that no mere mortal could possibly outsmart, control, train, contain, or have a normal owner relationship with them. These are exactly the self same tactics that have been historically used against any of the victims of hate crimes.

Realistically all domestic animal breeds were developed by human beings. When we come to the realization that it is us that these laws are truly aimed at, then we can shed the blinders, and get down to the real business of protecting our civil rights. When we stand up for ourselves as citizens, when we refuse to have our rights, and our property stripped from us, then we will be invincible. We must demand due process of law. We must not give over our civil rights, and our property, or our property rights. Dogs are valuable property. We humans have tens, of thousands of years of tradition in owning dogs. Dogs serve us in most every capacity from the gentle companion to service dogs, to guide dogs, to police dogs, to search, and rescue dogs, military dogs, drug sniffing dogs, hunting dogs, field dogs, herding dogs, guard dogs, show dogs, obedience dogs, dancing dogs, agility dogs, fly ball racers, the list is endless, and endlessly varied.

Far more people are killed by any number of other things than by dogs. Venomous snake bites kill an average of fifteen to twenty Americans per year. Bees kill one hundred, to three hundred persons a year on average. In 1989 fire-ant stings killed thirty two people in Texas. Lightening strikes one in every six hundred thousand persons killing one hundred, to three hundred persons annually.According to the U.S. Department of Labor there were five thousand, five hundred, and seventy-five work related fatalities in 2003. There were thirty eight thousand (38,000) fatal automobile crashes in 2003 across the U.S. Sadly, an average of fifteen hundred (1,500) children are killed each year in the United States by a parent, or guardian. The leading cause of death among pregnant women in the U.S. is murder at the hand of the father of her unborn child.

Given these figures, the restrictions on ownership of dogs by breed, makes no sense. California's SB 861 analysis quotes figures that there have been forty-seven human deaths in California that were attributable to dogs from the years 1965 through 2001. That averages to one death a year out of a population of some thirty-five million, eighty-four thousand, four hundred and fifty-three people (35,084,453). Subtract one from the figure 35,484,453 and you will see how many people did not die from dog bites in California each year... San Francisco averages three hundred and sixty two reported dog bites per year, approximately one bite per day from a population of seven hundred fifty-one thousand,six hundred and eighty-two (751,682) people. In any given year in San Francisco 751,320 people are not bitten by dogs. Public Safety, cannot, and must not be used as an excuse to remove our civil rights. Sound, responsible dog owner legislation that is strictly enforced, is a reasonable alternative that reinforces our civil rights.

Every year approximately four million people across the United States are bitten by dogs. That number makes up less than 1% of our population. Out of that figure, the vast majority of dog bite victims are unattended children who are bitten by their family dog at home. The rest are unattended children who are off of their family property that are bitten by a dog that is at large. The number of fatalities resulting from dog attacks across the United States average from twelve, to twenty four in any given year. Dogs are certainly not the threat to public health, and safety that the news media would lead us all to believe. Shocking, and horrifying as these dog related fatalities are, there are many, and far more serious threats to human life here in the United States.

There are a whole lot of dogs, in the United States, tens of millions. Of the 400,000,000 of us human beings ,about sixty-five percent, give or take, own dogs. If the vast majority of dog owners were not responsible, there would be at least as many deaths attributable to dogs, as there are to automobile crashes. Dog related fatalities are very few in comparison to any other cause. Out of a population of some 400,000,000 to lose 12, to 24 people in a year to dog attacks is a strong case for, and speaks volumes to the overall safety record of dog owners

Cherie Graves, chairwoman Responsible Dog Owners of the Western States http://www.povn.com/rdows 323922 N. Hwy. 2 Diamond Lake, WA 99156


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 2dangerous; animals; banpitbulls; doggieping; nannystate; nomorepitbulls; pets; pitbulls; psychodogs; psychonannies
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Their coming to take your rights away...V's wife.
1 posted on 05/18/2006 6:44:15 AM PDT by ventana
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To: ventana

Dogs are property. As such, crimes commited with dogs, and torts involving dogs are the fault of the property owner -- the dog owner.

Beware of people complaining about "bad breeds" and "assault dogs".


2 posted on 05/18/2006 6:48:38 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: ventana
Yes, dogs really don't understand. That's why we must take pains whenever a dog kills a human to take the owner out an dexecute him immediately.

It's so rare that I can find anything in these transparent justifications for keeping pit bulls with which I can agree, but there it is.

3 posted on 05/18/2006 6:53:31 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Liberal Classic

Don't I get to cross-examine the dog?


4 posted on 05/18/2006 6:54:57 AM PDT by JusticeForAll76
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To: Liberal Classic

Society is becoming more and more tolerant of laws which infringe upon the rights of the majority in order to punish the few.

Whether its "dangerous dog breeds", firearms, other types of pets, remote control planes, pre-existing pig farms, etc.

The driving force behind this is, of course, attorneys and self-serving politicians, which are too often synonmous.


5 posted on 05/18/2006 6:55:09 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ventana

Free the Mad Cows Now!


6 posted on 05/18/2006 6:56:02 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: ZULU

Note that, as people have less rights to defend themselves physically, that they come to rely on police and animal control and demand restrictions on dog ownership and the like.


7 posted on 05/18/2006 6:57:09 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic

That's true also.

But the state cannot protect us and is on record as maintaining it has no obligation to do so.


8 posted on 05/18/2006 6:58:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: JusticeForAll76

Under granola-style animal emancipation statutes, under which one is a dog's "guardian", I suppose you could hire a dog psychic to find out what was going on inside its head.


9 posted on 05/18/2006 6:59:02 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: muawiyah

May I prosecute the owners for letting their dogs poop on my lawn?


10 posted on 05/18/2006 7:00:24 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Liberal Classic

I was just being silly


11 posted on 05/18/2006 7:02:49 AM PDT by JusticeForAll76
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To: muawiyah

Re your pitbull comment: Ditto! V's wife.


12 posted on 05/18/2006 7:03:25 AM PDT by ventana
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To: Glenn

Moo! V's wife.


13 posted on 05/18/2006 7:04:33 AM PDT by ventana
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To: kanawa

Ping!


14 posted on 05/18/2006 7:05:56 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Hmmm ~ guy used to do that around here ~ use his dogs to poop on lawns.

One day his prize black chow got loose and jumped into the backyard of this older Korean man.

Dog didn't come out.

We have few stray dogs around here.

15 posted on 05/18/2006 7:06:18 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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May I prosecute the owners for letting their dogs poop on my lawn?

Absolutely. But the dog owner should have the Right to sue you for payment for the fertilizer.

16 posted on 05/18/2006 7:06:25 AM PDT by LPM1888 ("If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy")
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To: JusticeForAll76

Me too. :)


17 posted on 05/18/2006 7:08:08 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: muawiyah

Well, the owners need to be punished, and we need to have vicious dog laws with teeth in them (no pun intended...well, maybe it was!). However, I'd be cautious about breed specific laws. First, do you know how many people mistake boxers for pit bulls? What about mixed breeds? It's a conundrum (and don't count on your local animal control officer to be able to tell the difference either).
Personally, the breed that scares me the most is chows. That doesn't mean I think they should be illegal.
Thank goodness I fell in love with golden retrievers and Italian spinoni.
susie


18 posted on 05/18/2006 7:08:21 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ventana
Jet ski's kill people. So do horses, and hang gliders. Rock climbing defaces our parks, as do off road vehicles and snow mobiles. Down hill skiing is unsafe and the rest of us with insurance have to pay for the broken bones. Private or General Aviation is not really needed and very wasteful/polluting. Guns are dangerous and thousands die at the hand of them. Motorcycles are dangerous and cripple thousands each year. Scuba diver damage the coral reefs, mountain bikes the wilderness, campers in our parks leave waste. You should not smoke, and the sun gives you cancer.

There is a wacko out there trying to ban everything and anything. Screw them!
19 posted on 05/18/2006 7:08:36 AM PDT by Red6
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To: ventana

Responsible dog owner, the rarest breed of all. If only that breed was as common as pit bulls, rotties, chows, etc...


20 posted on 05/18/2006 7:10:59 AM PDT by DonGrafico (Gowd demmit bub! You ain't from around heah ah ya?)
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