Have you ever tried to dam a river by placing a piece of dam here and a piece of dam there across its width? 
Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
I am a married woman, and I do not engage in joking about going to bed with others, so I suppose that means that we most certainly are not on the same level.
Nice chatting with you. Have a lovely day.
How many people, left or right, are actually that absorbed with any issues? I think all to often many voters are driven away by the agenda based crowds, whether it's reasonable or not.
There are plenty of people out there who don't care about abortion one way or the other, or immigration, or religion, or...etc, who are just fed up with politics.
I think that's why Perot's "I'll run it like a CEO" popularity resonated.
If he had been a legitimate candidate, I think he could have actually been a threat by his second or third run.
When I supported him I never thought in the end that I would view his departure with such ambivalence.
Really? Am I not mean enough? Not condescending enough? Not arrogant enough? Not old enough, not bitter enough?
I think I held my own quit well, thankyouverymuch. You might read the exchange. I am not scared of an internet bully.
Have you ever tried to dam a river by placing a piece of dam here and a piece of dam there across its width?
We were talking about Perot hon.
Lord, some of you Bots are veritable little furnaces of emotive reasoning.
Irony:
About a month ago, I almost got into a traffic fight with someone in Lebanon TN who had a Bush is a monkey bumpersticker...lol
Teeny, are getting into fisticuffs 'round here?? ;o)
Actually, I've never seen a damned dam built when you have a group of people on one bank screaming each piece isn't long enough or deep enough, and another group of people on the other bank screaming that each piece is too long and too deep.
In the end you just end up with a lot of screaming and no damned dam at all.
I like Rush.
My wife adores Rush.
I view he, and Reagan and Newt as the most important Conservatives of the last quarter of the 20th Century.
If President Bush did sign the Senate bill, that would just about put him among the liberal democrats, wouldn't it?
I went back and looked at the first sentence....I could see how you might have thought I meant Bush Sr and Dole but not Little Bush.
Rest assured I supported Bush twice.
I even have the threads with pics to prove it on this very forum.
I wouldn't be here otherwise. This is a poor forum for Democrats.
one day I'll capitulate and support Amnesty and name my next child George.
Apparently being friends with you has given me a bad reputation in some circles. : )
How many illegals do you reckon will skip around that added "enforcement"? As many as would without it, possibly?
Do you think the president will sign the bill, if it were presented to him now?
That's exactly what I'm talking about...people on both banks screaming and not actually contributing.
Since this thread has become a free for all, I guess the mods are letting it go. There was a few battles going on here that got pretty brutal.
Yes, I have a way of sullying reputations. Though I must say its been eons since you graced my threads. ;o)
Yes it would, if he were "opening the floodgates" (though I'm one of those idiots who INSISTS on adding all immigrants, since the Somalis and Hatians and such haven't always been good houseguests either) but that's not what even the Senate bill is proposing.
Catch you later. Taking the kids to a festival.
Teeny , you are certainly free to ignore my advise to pick your battles wisely
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