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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: ATCNavyRetiree

Aliens who serve in the Military automatically qualify for citizenship. U should know that. And has earned his citizenship.

However, I don't want to pay for his mom and dad, 18 brothers, 10 sisters and 47 neices and nieces and uncles and aunts.


821 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:01 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: devane617
I gotta think if Lou Dobbs is opposed to this plan and calls it "amnesty" then it might not be so bad for the country!


822 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:06 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: hole_n_one

Yes' I know. Spitz Matthews just said he thinks Durbin endorsed the President's speech.


823 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:07 PM PDT by old_sage_says ("Man does not live by his words alone, despite the fact that he sometimes has to eat them" A S)
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To: carton253
Politics is timing... and he isn't late. he isn't early. He's right on time.

Finally some wisdom.

WE don't need another "Trail-of-Tears"!

Educate! Assimilate! "Carpe Diem" and defuse Socialist infiltration.

824 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:08 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: All

I have a question.

What are we going to do when we offer these illegals that have been here a long time right to citizenship and they don't take it since it means they have to pay bak taxes,etc? Are we going to give them a time limit to get it together or else or are we just going to continue letting them live here as illegals?

I want that answered from the Presidant!


825 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:12 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: zook

Good Gosh you are killing me. It's a joke.


826 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:16 PM PDT by Sprite518
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Ya know, that slightly annoying glare in the window is ultimately meaningless, yet in some ways symbolic. Another detail overlooked by an admin with good intentions but perceived to be less than professional and lacking in competence. Sheesh, do they need Tony Snow to cover every single aspect of PR?

Like it or not, the President is not currently perceived as a great leader by the majority of Americans. Unfortunately this speech did nothing to break that perception. Obviously substance is more important than style, but appearing competent and comfortable in the office of the Presidency does matter when you are polling under 40%. The danger is this will lead more Americans to just blow off his speech.


827 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:19 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: speed_addiction

"The President's poll numbers are freefalling into the 20's as he speaks. Rightfully so. What a disappointment."

I just listened to a pile of cr*p. Same old same old. He hasn't budged off of his amnesty program one bit. This is all a temporary ploy to fool all you RINO's out there, and it will. I'm sure you'll jump on the compassionate part of his conservatism, and I use that term loosely, and totally ignore that he is not conservative here at all. He's as bad as the Dems on touchy feely, we can't kick them out, they work so hard, baloney. He said nothing about how so many of them feed off of our welfare system, education system, end up in our jails, and cost we, the taxpayers, bundles of money. He said nothing about going after employers w/fines, jail, etc. for those that hire illegals, he said nothing about a real fence; in other words, anything that would really work he did not speak to. This is sickening, and Bush once again proves he is nothing more than a Rockefeller Republican in disguise. And you RINO suckers out there fall for it. Disgusting.


828 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:26 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Y)
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To: surely_you_jest

Exactly.


829 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:26 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: KavMan
NUTS! JUST NUTS! You guys want him to come down soooooooo hard on the illegals that we're going to lose the Latino vote to the RATS. Yea, We'll be bottomfeeders again real soon.... Let's get ready to welcome Hillary in 08

You are absolutely right! We gotta stop eating our own!

830 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:28 PM PDT by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: glasseye

WEAK Speech...come on, we knew all this, people walk across deserts, blah blah blah...doesn't he get it..we need enforcement up front and first W.


831 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:30 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970
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To: Jorge

I love GW!!
He has the honesty to deal with a problem no one else would. He will piss off the isolationists, but so what. They want all the illegals out NOW and a WALL, which is plain stupid, not to mention unrealistic. I am embarrassed to be associated with them as "republicans" anyway.
God Bless George W Bush!!!


833 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:34 PM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Freepers are trying to help by not being enablers

LOL! The above coming from one of the biggest enablers of hysterical hyperbole on FR.

834 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:37 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: DevSix
I agree!

He did a fine job tonight.

Thank God he doesnt listen to the ranting extremists--on both sides.

835 posted on 05/15/2006 5:26:45 PM PDT by arbee4bush (Our Airman Daughter KB4W--Hero, Patriot and the Love of her mom & dads life!)
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To: wardaddy
Hola, fellow troll.

Reading thru this thread is a kick... I'd like to ask all those claiming this was a persuasive speech - what was the difference between what the president said this time, and what he said last time?

He says we need to ratchet down the rhetoric, and have a debate, but he has budged not one inch from where he began on this issue.

836 posted on 05/15/2006 5:27:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Right_in_Virginia
"We need more than 6,000 to advise and train?"

We would have to divert whole divisions to absolutely secure the Border. It would be expensive and a risk to national security. The whole thing's a tough problem.
837 posted on 05/15/2006 5:27:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: glasseye

Look at this situation with your good eye. If you want a good screwing, listen to Durbin's dem. reply. Unless you have a tin ear, that is.


838 posted on 05/15/2006 5:27:08 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual...if they sense scorn or ridicule, they'll flee)
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To: mad_as_he$$

W T H ?


839 posted on 05/15/2006 5:27:09 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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