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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: onyx

I'm all for enforcement .. absolutely. Like I said upthread, it's a no-win situation for W .. and the Critters are flopping like half-dead trout on the dock. The issue is what's realistically likely, given the current dynamics. W has taken a first brave step, something no other president has done this way, and God bless him.


2,721 posted on 05/15/2006 9:50:53 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: Earthdweller

The borders will remain open, the Border Patrol will be chasing coyotes and tumbleweeds with those high tech motion sensors, and even if the "Virtual Fence" works (which it won't, and the folks proposing it know that), Guest Worker euchers the whole project. So now mass flows of cheap, unprotected labor will be here legally, ensuring that employers don't even have to worry about INS.

Guest workers will legally have anchor babies, and immigration will expand.

Silver lining: lots more Catholics.


2,722 posted on 05/15/2006 9:50:55 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (La nuit tombe.)
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To: Shortstop7

My husband and I have worked many of the jobs people say Americans won't do or aren't doing and I am insulted by those words. You say the younger generation won't do that type of work now; I will call BS on that, my stepson and daughter are working construction jobs right now and another daughter is working in an onion shed and doing other farm labor. None of my 4 children even has an ipod and only one has a laptop which she is using in trying to set up her own business. Very seldom do any of them go to a mall. You may know many young people like you describe but there are many out there that are not that way.

I do think there might not be enough Americans to fill all the jobs, If the issue was characterized that way I would not have an objection. The way it is worded now makes all Americans sound lazy and too good to work. I do think we need to figure out just how many workers we need and what type from other countries to make sure illegals don't take jobs from Americans, that Americans do want and are willing to do- which does happen now. Of course if the plan is to make employers follow the law- then I think the advantage of saving money by hiring illegals will evaporate and with no advantage over American workers much of that will stop.


2,723 posted on 05/15/2006 9:51:14 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Texasforever
I think he was a bit dismayed that all of you "true conservatives" didn't even allow Meirs a chance to testify.

I thought Meirs bowed out? Oh, that's right, you SPLC guys don't believe in being responsible for your own actions. LOL

2,724 posted on 05/15/2006 9:51:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: STARWISE


BUMP you comments!


2,725 posted on 05/15/2006 9:51:41 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
I feel that perpetuating abortion and the permitting sexual perversion in so many forms is far more damaging to our nation and worthy of diving punishment than the influx of those illegals who simply want to make bucks to send home and feed their starving families.

So, liberalism hath bought us 'payback'? Right and wrong. Enough Americans are innocent of the leftist, cultural decay that we'll defend our homeland from this 'home on the prairie' invasion taking place, no matter.

A real American president would have both the Left and the MSM running for cover. A real American president wouldn't have to make excuses for problems that are solvable. A real American president would scare the sh*t out of any tinpot communist trying to get a foothold on any part of the 'Americas' (see Monroe Doctrine).

In short, a real president would act upon that which is in the best interest of America and probably piss off everyone else. He'd do so knowing that freedom and liberty have no equal in this world and thus, are worth protecting at all cost. That's right, when you're doubled up with Lady Liberty, you go all in. It's a sure hand.

2,726 posted on 05/15/2006 9:52:35 PM PDT by budwiesest (I don't do that much diversity.)
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To: Vicomte13
A virtual fence will work as well a virtual bullet in a gun.
2,727 posted on 05/15/2006 9:52:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: devane617; All

Time to put my old head down to rest.

Enjoyed the thread, and I hope tempers will mellow and flames will extinguish themselves. We are a good bunch of people with differing opinions and know we shall all come to our senses when the time is right.

Smile and be happy!!!

Good night.


2,728 posted on 05/15/2006 9:52:58 PM PDT by old_sage_says ("Man does not live by his words alone, despite the fact that he sometimes has to eat them" A S)
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To: pbrown

I'm thinking that Bill Richardson is going to be the Democratic nominee.

That'd be an interesting race: Richardson vs. McCain.


2,729 posted on 05/15/2006 9:53:05 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (La nuit tombe.)
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To: trubluolyguy
Hmmm, were they suspended?

No, "they" weren't; he's lying.

2,730 posted on 05/15/2006 9:53:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: epow

If you want to hear them (not Buster Brown, but Jack Armstrong and some others) again you should check out http://www.rusc.com. I am going to make burn the programs on cds, then play them on my replica old time radio stereo. ;-)


2,731 posted on 05/15/2006 9:53:10 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Vicomte13

Depressing defeatist as usual...when will you learn.


2,732 posted on 05/15/2006 9:53:10 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: TigersEye
thought Meirs bowed out? Oh, that's right, you SPLC guys don't believe in being responsible for your own actions.

No she didn't "bow" out she was lynched by the the mouth breathers. She may have completely bombed in the hearings but at least she would have had the chance to defend herself.

2,733 posted on 05/15/2006 9:54:25 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: michigander
They're just Democrats trying to ruin our chances! The polls are lying!!! Look at their sign up date, anything after mine is suspect. The site has been infiltrated by BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronterracistxenophobantihispanicnazibigots and all they do is whine and bitchbithchbitchbitchbitch all the time.

That's stupid! I'm certainly no troll and it's just short sighted to say that anyone signed up after you is suspect. Maybe some of us actually live very close to a major border (San Ysidro)and see what is going on. How our businessmen are being are being kidnapped and held for ransom. We had this happen to three men a few weeks ago. I see first hand that the illegals DON"T want to asimilate to our American ways. I can't even be a poll worker because I'm not bilingual! Angry....you bet! And complain I will!

2,734 posted on 05/15/2006 9:54:27 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: Vicomte13
McCain.

Projectile vomiting will now commence.

2,735 posted on 05/15/2006 9:55:27 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Thanks Gypsie, I will.


2,736 posted on 05/15/2006 9:56:44 PM PDT by epow
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To: pbrown

Hehehehe


2,737 posted on 05/15/2006 9:56:54 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: ideas_over_party
They can't be Dems if they are Christians...it's a given.
2,739 posted on 05/15/2006 9:58:08 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: zook

>>>"Dubya will go down as one of our great presidents"<<<
>>>"Dubya will go down as one of our great presidents"<<<
>>>Bears frequent repeating.<<<

Tell a lie often enough and people might believe it.


2,740 posted on 05/15/2006 9:58:36 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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