Posted on 05/13/2006 5:49:57 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
Exactly!
Our Grand Old Party thinks we are to be hornswaggled and taken for granted!
There are many on FR that rant against us that demand border security. Like border security is a bad thing. Why is border security and securing this Nation a bad thing?
And this should be the primary point of investigation. I have read that approx. 9.3 million SSN's are bogus(still can't find official source, wonder why?) Social Security knows where the employers are and should turn all info over to ICE and the rest of Homeland Security.
This is something a ten year old could figure out. Why hasn't it been done already?
For the "Party Over Principle Posse" it's all about ego & power. There's lots of jobs appointed at both the Fed & State levels to party loyalists, and I wouldn't be surprised that some members of the POPP are part of this group.
Principles are fine and dandy when you don't have anything at stake (other than our Nation's survival); when you're dependent on certain organizations to pay the bills, you'd be surprised at the logical contortions one can make to justify any argument.
Better border security will raise the price of drugs and potentially disrupt the drug economy.
I agree with you two.
There aren't 9.3m fraudulent SSNs, there have been 9.3m invalid W-2s (ie SSNs don't match up) filed for 2005 tax returns. To my knowledge, there aren't any published stats available from the IRS - this was leaked info. As to the actual number of fraudulent SSNs floating around, it's probably incalculable.
In those headliner raids and arrests of 1200 illegals a couple of weeks ago, most were released within 5 hours -- after the headline of the arrests, of course.
Sure is it a dog and pony show.
There aren't 9.3m fraudulent SSNs, there have been 9.3m invalid W-2s (ie SSNs don't match up) filed for 2005 tax returns. To my knowledge, there aren't any published stats available from the IRS - this was leaked info. As to the actual number of fraudulent SSNs floating around, it's probably incalculable.
And others as we know, benefit from illegally hiring illegal aliens...
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. Seems there is NO reason to do anything on this issue since no matter what the GOP does the DNC mouthpieces pretending to be "Real Conservatives" are just going to manufacture new reason to bitch about it.
Please parse your sentence for me as I don't seem to grasp the difference between an SSN that doesn't match (I'm guessing with a name in another DB) and one that is bogus.
It remains a starting point. If one employer has several "invalid SSN's" something smells, doesn't it?
Source to back up this claim other then some pressure groups PR sheet or website?
On Monday Bush will call for the NG to close the border...but only as a first step to giving long-range amnesty to the millions of law breakers already here....IMHO
Because it's against the law to reveal that information. IRS and SS are forbidden to give that information to ANYBODY.
[The American people must let the GOP -- including the President -- know that we're not impressed with their dog-and-pony shows. We want action.]
As a conservative voter, I can not for for politician's and representives who do not represent moral values. Both of America's no longer share conservative moral values and should be replaced for the good of the children.
High value targets:
On May 1st (the day of the illegal alien protests), Purdue, Tyson, and Cargill Meat Packing all shut down the majority of their plants, with Cargill giving its 15,000 "employees" the day off.
ummm....You mean it ain't fraud? I'm just guesing here, but I suspect that both the IRS and SSA both have investigative and enforcement arms that are tasked with exactly that purpose in mind...else we would all be using bogus numbers and skip merrily away from any prosecution.
There could be many reasons for invalid W-2s, but the main reason is most likely fraudulent SSNs. In fact, this is one of the arguments used by the pro-illegal groups: that illegals are paying into the system but will never see any return.
Of course, they fail to mention that illegals claim 99 dependents, and therefore have -0- income tax withheld, but they are correct that SS payments cannot be retrieved. Yet, there is a plausible expectation that if amnesty was granted, there'd be a huge class-action suit filed to have some guestimated amount granted to them.
As to the total number of fraudulent docs floating around, well thats in the billions & trillions. It's actually a pretty big business, one that is controlled by some Mexican crime families.
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