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Debunking the Myths Surrounding Illegal Immigration
Stanford Review ^ | May 12, 2006 | Joe Dunn

Posted on 05/12/2006 6:25:43 AM PDT by John Jorsett

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1 posted on 05/12/2006 6:25:44 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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Anti-illegal-immigration opinion is rooted in legitimate fiscal considerations, not xenophobia.

If someone thinks the arguments against illegal aliens involves xenophobia...that says more about them than anything else.
2 posted on 05/12/2006 6:33:06 AM PDT by P-40
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A costly illegals invasion....# The estimated 1.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the nation's public school system cost taxpayers $9.6 billion every year in an attempt to educate them (despite the illegal immigrant community's epidemic-scale dropout rates)

# The 2.2 million children of illegal immigrants in America, often referred to as "anchor babies" to ensure the parents can stay, add an additional $20 billion to that tab

# In California, the 2004-05 state budget spent $9,811 per pupil in the classroom. An estimated 425,000 illegal immigrants in the state's classrooms during that period cost taxpayers more than $4 billion -- a figure that does not include the "anchor baby" population in the classroom

# More than 40,000 illegal immigrants jammed California's prison system in 2004, costing taxpayers $1.5 billion in tax dollars not reimbursed by the federal government

# In one of the cruelest jokes played on the American taxpayers, illegal immigrants are allowed to claim children living back in Mexico and qualify for the earned-income tax credit, which traditionally has helped the American poor.


3 posted on 05/12/2006 6:40:44 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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My state, Texas, is trying to figure out how to keep the schools open. If it were not for educating Mexico, we would have plenty of money. In the race for Governor, only one candidate, an independent, is talking about the problem.


4 posted on 05/12/2006 6:44:32 AM PDT by P-40
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Anti-illegal-immigration opinion is rooted in legitimate fiscal considerations, not xenophobia.

Fiscal concerns are certainly there and not insignificant but if this author truly believes this is about money he has missed the boat.

5 posted on 05/12/2006 6:45:06 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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this is about money he has missed the boat.

The arguments against the illegals are largely financial. The arguments for the illegals are largely fanatical.
6 posted on 05/12/2006 6:48:28 AM PDT by P-40
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To: Altura Ct.
this author truly believes this is about money

Agreed. This is about the law being broken in broad daylight, without any penalty. This corrodes society like acid.

7 posted on 05/12/2006 6:56:32 AM PDT by agere_contra
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The arguments against the illegals are largely financial

I guess it depends on who you ask. The money issue is secondary to me. American sovereignty and way of life for me, my family, my community and future generations of Americans is what is paramount in this discussion to me and I'm pretty sure many other Americans. Having money be the most important thing is partially why we are here in the first place.

8 posted on 05/12/2006 6:56:49 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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American sovereignty and way of life for me, my family, my community and future generations of Americans

Very true...but I could break the "way of life" part down to finances, no sweat. :)
9 posted on 05/12/2006 6:59:23 AM PDT by P-40
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We are a Nation ruled by Law. They are BREAKING the Law.

That should be the end of the discussion right there. Anyone breaking the law, or conspiring to break the law, is guilty of a crime. Regardless of if they are elected to public office of not.

10 posted on 05/12/2006 7:07:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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We are a Nation ruled by Law.

That does not appear to apply to Kennedys or illegals

11 posted on 05/12/2006 7:13:47 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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That does not appear to apply to Kennedys or illegals

We the People are in charge here. If our government servents won't do the job we tell them to, then we need to do it our selves until those servents can be replaced with those who can read their employment contract and understand what it says quite clearly.

12 posted on 05/12/2006 7:20:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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I have made the financial and moral argument for illegal immigration since I took up the defense. Please point to ONE "fanatical" post of mine.


13 posted on 05/12/2006 7:33:53 AM PDT by clawrence3
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#1 - only vigilantes take the law into their own hands.

#2 - Jim Robinson has already said he will not be a party to anything that gets the Democrats back in power.

You'd better be careful.


14 posted on 05/12/2006 7:35:56 AM PDT by clawrence3
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Please point to ONE "fanatical" post of mine.

There is neither a financial or a moral argument *for* illegal "immigration" so the answer to your question would be 'all of them' by definition.
15 posted on 05/12/2006 7:39:46 AM PDT by P-40
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Even if households headed by illegal aliens received $26.3 billion in government services, while paying a total of $16 billion in taxes, that doesn’t necessarily = $10 billion loss if the costs of sealing the border, rounding up everyone and deprting, etc. are more.


16 posted on 05/12/2006 7:39:54 AM PDT by clawrence3
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Please point out the "fanaticism" in my post # 16 then.


17 posted on 05/12/2006 7:40:59 AM PDT by clawrence3
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You'd better be careful.

Sounds like a threat to me. Do you always start off your conversations by threatening people?

18 posted on 05/12/2006 7:42:38 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: clawrence3

Did you mean a ten billion dollar gain?


19 posted on 05/12/2006 7:45:26 AM PDT by P-40
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To: Dead Corpse

Since it is not a threat, but a helpful suggestion (i.e. yf you were crossing the street against a red light, I'd say the same thing), no.


20 posted on 05/12/2006 7:45:49 AM PDT by clawrence3
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