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Analysis: Immigration Bill All but Assured
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/11/06 | David Espo

Posted on 05/11/2006 8:15:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - After months of partisan maneuvering, Senate passage of sweeping immigration legislation is virtually assured by Memorial Day. But that scarcely ends the struggle in Congress, given the vast differences between President Bush and House Republicans over the fate of millions of illegal immigrants.

The substance of the Senate bill is unlikely to change significantly from the measure that was stuck in gridlock more than a month ago. It includes additional border security, a new guest worker program and provisions opening the way to eventual citizenship for many of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country.

What changed was that after weeks of exchanging insults, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee and Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., agreed on a procedural compromise that gives the bill's critics ample opportunity to offer amendments. It also offers assurances to Democrats that Senate negotiators will not simply capitulate to demands of House conservatives in talks on compromise legislation later in the year.

However briefly, nearly everyone seemed pleased.

"We congratulate the Senate on reaching agreement and we look forward to passage of a bill prior to Memorial Day," said Dana Perino, deputy White House press secretary. Reid and Frist exchanged compliments on the Senate floor. Mexico's foreign secretary said in a statement that the deal was a "positive step toward the approval of a migration accord."

Everyone but House Republicans, many of whom criticize the Senate's bill as an amnesty measure. And possibly House Democrats, who, ironically enough, seem to share the White House view of the political implications of immigration. They are eager to campaign against Republicans responsible for last year's bill to make all illegal immigrants subject to felony charges.

Looking ahead, the White House is searching for ways to assure conservatives that Bush understands their concerns. White House strategist Karl Rove met with lawmakers earlier in the week, and at least one session included a discussion about making greater use of National Guard troops to shore up border security.

"Nobody is suggesting that we put troops on the border," said Sen. Lamar Alexander (news, bio, voting record), R-Tenn., who attended the session. "We are suggesting there are plenty of resources in the government" to increase border security, at least in an interim period while provisions in the pending legislation take hold, he said.

"The National Guard can in some cases help do that," he added. Other lawmakers said they expected Bush to announce border security improvements next week, possibly in a speech in Arizona or another border states.

The differences between Bush and House Republicans flared dramatically when the Senate appeared on the verge of agreement on a comprehensive bill several weeks ago. Several GOP conservatives denounced the bill as an amnesty measure and Rep. Steve King (news, bio, voting record) of Iowa said anyone who voted for it should be "branded with a scarlet letter A."

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., offered his view of the importance of immigrant labor: "I say let the prisoners pick the fruits."

In political terms, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona and others said Republicans would pay a price in the midterm elections if they vote for anything like the Senate legislation. "Many of those who have stood for the Republican Party for the last decade are not only angry. They will be absent in November," Hayworth said.

Given Bush's recent erosion of support among conservatives, as measured in polls, there's been no evident change in sentiment among his congressional critics.

The political calculations are different at the White House. Hispanics comprise the nation's fastest growing minority, according to this line of reasoning, and no political party can afford to be seen as blind or even hostile to their concerns and the desire of their relatives to join them in the United States.

Bush and top House Republicans reviewed the issue last week at a private White House meeting, according to several officials, and the president urged the GOP congressional leadership to embrace his call for comprehensive legislation. That means provisions to strengthen border security, coupled with a guest worker program that — while the president doesn't say so in public — provides a chance at citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. and other leaders stressed that would be a hard sell with their rank and file. Bush restated his desire for a comprehensive bill, and the leadership responded by noting the sentiment of the rank and file, according to officials familiar with the conversation. They spoke on condition of anonymity, given the private nature of the meetings.

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EDITOR'S NOTE — David Espo is chief congressional correspondent for The Associated Press.


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41 posted on 05/11/2006 9:32:50 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: flaglady47

I think it is sarcasm.


42 posted on 05/11/2006 9:34:00 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Sir Gawain

President Bush has made some mistakes but he is right on this issue. Who do you choose? Gore, Kerry, or Hillary?


43 posted on 05/11/2006 9:34:29 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: NormsRevenge

Email to my Senior Senator, just sent:

Senator Frist:

I am baffled by the tone deafness you and your fellow politicians exhibit on the immigration issue. Every one of you knows by now that the vast majority of AMERICANS totally reject the idea of any so-called comprehensive immigration reform instead of a simple bill that addresses these two issues alone: (1) Stop the INVASION by illegal aliens by any and all appropriate means, and (2) punish - SEVERELY - the employers that violate the law by hiring illegal aliens.

The ONLY secondary issues you should consider are the technical means to directly support these primary purposes.

Perhaps you think that we will forget what you are doing to us by election time, or by some time in the more distant future when the furor has subsided. I assure you, the furor may end, but the absolute FURY will NEVER subside. Far better to save your President from this folly than to join him in it. This is political suicide, and I am amazed that you lemmings don't realize how close you are to the edge of the cliff. Jump over, and there will be no way back for a single one of you.


44 posted on 05/11/2006 9:34:59 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: Texasforever

"Just make them legal and and we reap the tax benefits."

I was thinking about this tonight. I believe most of our future, instant citizens won't be earning enough to pay. As a matter of fact they'll probably get money back. Not to mention still getting welfare, healthcare and housing assistance.


45 posted on 05/11/2006 9:36:08 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Gorobei
I am starting to get a bit pessimistic, unfortunately. Every Republican who votes for this needs to be held accountable in the Fall, though.

Well. Welcome to FR.

46 posted on 05/11/2006 9:36:41 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: dljordan
I was thinking about this tonight. I believe most of our future, instant citizens won't be earning enough to pay. As a matter of fact they'll probably get money back. Not to mention still getting welfare, healthcare and housing assistance.

You do know that in less than 4 years we are going to see the largest exodus from the workforce in our history? When the boomers retire the producer/non-producer pyramid will invert for the first time. If you think the AARP is militant now you ain't seen nothing yet. We had damn well be thinking about some type of tax base since our "legal population" has not reproduced enough to absorb this massive influx of new retirees.

47 posted on 05/11/2006 9:41:54 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: NormsRevenge

and provisions opening the way to eventual citizenship for many of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country.



No! no! no! no! no! no! no! no!

T'would appear that the Senate Repubs want to lose power really badly this fall. WTF, they weren't using it anyway.


48 posted on 05/11/2006 9:42:08 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: catholicfreeper

still think that Bush can peel off some Dem votes to get something through



I think he'll have to, those House pubbies are pretty serious about that whole Patriotism and Sovereignty thing.


49 posted on 05/11/2006 9:44:43 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: oceanview
The american southwest won't be recognizable in 20 years.

It won't take 20 years. We will look more like China, overcrowded with mobs. The marxists of both parties will win.

50 posted on 05/11/2006 9:46:00 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: sinkspur
98% of the country never even heard that story.

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51 posted on 05/11/2006 9:49:33 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Sam Clements
What is needed is to strengthen border security with a wall and any and all other measures which work to prevent the current lawlessness at the border.

That is the flaw. That sounds reasonable, and many would think our government would be working toward that. However, that is not the case.

The Bush Adminstration has no intention of slowing, much less stopping, the flow of illegals. This is from the White House website.

Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Prosperity Agenda

This is a fun statement from that WH link:

Stimulate and accelerate cross-border technology trade by preventing unnecessary barriers from being erected

As soon as those vigilante Minutemen start erecting fences, the FEDs will be there to knock them down. Bet on it.


Also, the text of that link says nothing about US National sovereignty, but implies that Our People ... within North America is the unit being discussed.


52 posted on 05/11/2006 9:53:54 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Tammy8
I don't know what that mess is meant to prove.

The fact that the story was debunked as quickly as it was guaranteed that it would gain no traction.

The only ones trying to keep it alive are Malkin and FR.

53 posted on 05/11/2006 9:54:07 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: Sam Clements

President Bush has been an outstanding President with
proven excellent judgement



Babs? Is that you?


54 posted on 05/11/2006 9:56:19 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: tennmountainman

But even if the senate were to put up a good bill (which there is no chance in the world that they will), they'll make it so it doesn't start to get implemented until 2010 or later. Then it will fall into the trashbin of all the other uninforced laws, committeed and studied to death, but never enforced.


55 posted on 05/11/2006 10:03:04 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: TexConfederate1861


My jokes and sarcasm are lost on so many tonight.


56 posted on 05/11/2006 10:12:51 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Tzimisce
you wrote: "My jokes and sarcasm are lost on so many tonight."

that's true. and that's because this is no laughing matter. in fact, the very future of our country and western civilization is at stake.

i do not want my beautiful, precious little daughter to grow up to live in some third world, corrupt, impoverished, diseased, crime ridden, ignorant, superstitious, uneducated, filthy, and ugly little shit hole.

uh, i mean, mexico.

57 posted on 05/11/2006 10:26:43 PM PDT by johnboy
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To: kellynla

I'm for that idea. That and end welfare.


58 posted on 05/11/2006 10:54:53 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm calling a few Rep's today and ask them what laws I can break.


59 posted on 05/11/2006 10:56:50 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: TomGuy
The whole thing is a sham, as nothing will really change, except millions more will be rushing to get in for the next amnesty.

Until they are severely punished at the polls they won't enforce anything they don't have to.

Your comments are all reinforced by the results of the last amnesty.

60 posted on 05/11/2006 11:03:12 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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