Posted on 05/11/2006 8:04:58 AM PDT by Theophilus
Edited on 05/11/2006 8:11:58 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I think by SuziQ's answer that people should act like adults, she meant that people should not get into prideful arguments where a husband and wife are so much at odds over a procedure. That said, By whose ~should~ be respected... Obviously if push comes to shove, legally it's the woman's decision what kind of medical treatment to accept or not accept. But any marriage that reaches a logjam on that point is not a marriage between reasonable people.
Personally, I have a lot more faith in a doctor's advice (that's why he makes the big bucks) than many here. I agree with the poster above who said not to fear information. I'm also aware of the many false results posted here, though I am very skeptical that any doctor anywhere has tried to PUSH abortion on people. Discussed in hard cases maybe, but even here in a pretty liberal area, no one would have the moxie to try to PRESSURE a woman into an abortion. I think that's just fluff.
The risk of a miscarriage from an amnio is higher than not having it at all, but it is still very low.
There is a good reason to have an amnio: immediately after delivery, Downs children may need the immediate services of a specialist (breathing and temperature regulation problems). Having the specialist present in the delivery room might be important...but ask your doctor (I only play one on FR)
Plus, amnio is not as dangerous as the postings here would imply. Many times it offers reassurance, and lets the rest of the pregnancy go forward with more convidence.
Because Tommy's a sonogram loving, placenta eating kinda guy. I should've used one w/out Oprah.
The risk of miscarriage (less than 1% or so) is about the same and the C-Plexis Cysts, by themselves, being an accurate marker for Trisomy 18 (or 21, I forget) --- also less than 1%.
And again, what does one do with the info (itself typically inconclusive, expecially if the baby is a girl, as it is often hard to tell momma from baby) from the amnio?
Now in our case, I won't fight the 2nd ultrasound at all. If she won't come to that conclusion herself.
If my wife wanted to get an amniocentesis (she does not) I would fight that at about the same level as I would if she took to not wearing a seat belt in the car because I believe it unnecessarily risks our baby.
If my wife wanted to get an abortion, well I won't go into that, but if my actions were indictable and I found myself before a jury of my peers, I would just hope and pray that at least one of them does not believe that self-determination is always the absolute and ultimate truth, virtue and right.
I was happy that when I finally got to see the obstetrician, it was too late to have an amniocentesis, since I would not have wanted to abort my daughter.
I had placenta praevia - the birth canal was completely blocked...so I had ultrasounds (3x) for the first time in my life. It was reassuring to know that the doctors were keeping an eye on things before the C-section.
My daughter, who had a miscarriage during her first pregnancy, was reassured by the ultrasounds she had during her second pregnancy.
Our insurance at that time required the tests... must have been en vouge to have it done then. Come to find out latter that the doctors get more from the state to perform abortions than to deliver healthy babies... We quit seeing that doctor...* Attention expecting Arizona Mothers! * this doctor moved out there from Virginia.. Doctor Enrique Tomayo... Watch out!
Wisdom should have ended the sentence right there. You have a pregnant wife, whom I would suppose you love. Love her more than some theoretical issue Hildy brings up just to stir the pot.
I can't answer that. Only the couple can, but I cannot emphasize enough that they need to be ADULTS about it, and barring any danger to the mother, think of how best to give that baby a chance to live.
Just what answer were you looking for?
Nowhere in scripture do we as God's creation are given the right to decide who lives or dies.
God is the Judge and he uses those he placed in authority to be the executioners.
We do not know the future of any child brought into this world, God does. disabled or able...
Precisely. I try not to let "what ifs" get in the way of "What IS".
There's one floating around with video of him jumping all over Oprah with Sith lightning flying out of his hands. It's hilarious.
Whenever a story sounds unbelievable, that doesn't mean it's not true. Everyone has an agenda. I believe those stories because I've given birth three times and went through at least four different OB offices. No offense, but too many doctors behave like dictators. I prefer midwives.
I also knew a woman who had a very high risk pregnancy, and the doctors were pressuring her daughter to abort. They warned that the baby would probably die and that the woman would definitely die. But the woman had watched the ultrasound, saw her own daughter's little legs kicking, and refused. Her child was born perfectly healthy. Last I heard, she's the mother of two now.
If a husband and wife disagree about a procedure involving a pregnancy, whose wishes should be followed?
bttt
I am saddened to hear of anyone being in the stressful situation you and your family are currently in. You will all be in my family's prayers. Concerning your questions and some of the comments here, ultrasound is just a tool. Like all tools it can be used for good or for evil. It has been a tremendous aid in helping women and men understand the human being in the center of their pregnancy and thus deterring them from murdering him or her. At the same time, ultrasound has been used to selectively kill tens of millions of baby girls around the world. The difference is in the intent of its use.
Information can have value, but it can also come at a cost. There are some things that we may simply not want to know. I, for one, do not wish to know the sex of my children before they are born. Although it might help me to pick gender specific clothing or baby room paint colors sooner, this benefit does not outweigh the loss of being surprised at our first "in person" introduction. In the same way, I would rather not take a test if it were able to determine the age of my natural death. Aside from potentially preventing me from keeping life insurance to provide fro my dependents, I would be far happier leaving fate in Pandora's box.
Some of the tests being pushed on perspective parents these days also have a greater cost than their benefit. Some of these amniocentesis tests have a greater chance of inducing miscarriage than the likelihood of the tested condition! Even then, many of the test conditions have no treatment so their only benefit is to someone who would rather murder their baby than risk having them be "defective", be the "defect" Down's Syndrome, a cleft lip, eye color, or two X chromosomes.
In the morally challenging days ahead, I will pray that you and your wife can work together to remain close and make the right decisions. I can only imagine the filth and lies that the pro-abortion types on this forum are privately mailing you. This is truly as test, and your faith and conscience will be your most reliable guides. Please take care and keep us updated.
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