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Rachel Carson - deadlier than Stalin?
The First Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | Robert matthews

Posted on 05/11/2006 3:32:58 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

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To: hanamizu
And yet some people in my city (Pittsburgh) have decided her worthy to name a bridge after:

Ninth Street Bridge could be renamed to honor Rachel Carson
21 posted on 05/11/2006 4:40:01 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (DemonRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Liberalism, junk science, Woodstockers, and the Leftist MSM were the ingredients of a deadly cocktail. And just think, it was all bull$hit.
22 posted on 05/11/2006 5:29:40 AM PDT by Fithee (US Fifth Column = Leftist Press + John Kerry + Clintonistas + Leftist Socialist Democrats)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I recently had an arguement with a friend about this. She claimed that ddt was responsible for the near extinction of the bald eagle. While acknowledging that the ban on ddt has killed tens of millions of humans, she still holds that protecting animals is more important. When she nixed ANWAR because of the Exxon Valdez, I finally just had to change the subject.


23 posted on 05/11/2006 5:32:41 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Petronski

What you said!!

I've been saying the exact same thing for years!! Even got into a spirited discussion at a party this weekend on the exact same topic.

Thanks goodness I still have two buckets of DDT in the back of my garage


24 posted on 05/11/2006 5:41:17 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: hanamizu
And of course he died—of old age some 35 years later.

For the life of me I can't remember his name right now, but he died on July 19th, 2004 at the age of 85 when he fell while moutain climbing!!!

25 posted on 05/11/2006 5:44:40 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I am conservative on most topics but I still don't understand why so many of you are critical of environmentalists. What's wrong with being concerned about our natural environment.

There are just as many 'wacky' religious Christian fundamentalists and 'wacky' corrupt businesspeople as there are 'wacky' environmentalist. Why pick on them?


26 posted on 05/11/2006 6:13:18 AM PDT by citizenmike
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To: KosmicKitty
Good memory --

J. Gordon Edwards (1919-2004) was an entomologist mountain climber, an author, and park ranger. Edwards was professor, and later emeritus professor of Biology, San Jose State University. He died on July 19 of a heart attack while hiking up Divide Mountain with his wife, Alice. He was 84.

27 posted on 05/11/2006 6:22:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm threatening to kill a dead woman.

But then she won't be able to vote. :)
28 posted on 05/11/2006 6:24:40 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: citizenmike
I am conservative on most topics but I still don't understand why so many of you are critical of environmentalists. What's wrong with being concerned about our natural environment.

I believe that you are conflating two things:

What's wrong with being concerned about our natural environment.

Absolutely nothing. Many Conservatives care a great deal about the environment. Land management is just good sense. Hunters care about wildlife. Christians are called to be good stewards of the earth. The reasons why Conservatives care about our environment are many.

I still don't understand why so many of you are critical of environmentalists.

Ah! You see, every environmentalist I've ever met has been a Marxist who cares less about the environment than I do. What they care about is the destruction of western values, the elimination of industrial capitalism, and the ruin of Christianity. I don't have any tolerance for people like that.

29 posted on 05/11/2006 6:27:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Racehorse
Browsing through the ToxFAQ suggests to me the decision to use DDT is strictly cost/benefit stuff.  More people will live because of it than will become sick or die because of it.

More people will eat, too, if it is used against food pests, like the Medfly.

he Mediterranean fruit fly, or medfly, is one of the world's most destructive farm pests. It lays its eggs in fruit and vegetables, causing them to rot, larvae-infested on the ground. The medfly has menaced Latin America's fruit industry since its invasion early this century, depriving countries of food supplies and valuable export opportunities. The foremost victims have been small farmers, rural workers and the natural environment.

30 posted on 05/11/2006 6:31:35 AM PDT by syriacus (WHERE has Geo. Clooney been for ALL the years that Franklin Graham has been helping the Sudanese?)
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To: citizenmike
Why pick on them?

Because their very actions hurt humans. They use distorted and false data to back their claims. They "take" private property in the name of thje enviroment. They have sent people to prison for covering a hole on their own land. Look at what the false hysteria on DDT has caused.

The MSM and our teachers have preached this false environmental gospel for a couple of generations now. Look at the false premise of man-caused global warming. The KYOTO treaty is nothing more than a scam to take money from the American taxpayer.

31 posted on 05/11/2006 6:39:38 AM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: Petronski
Good morning.
"I'm convinced Rachel Carson's war on DDT was a stealth population control measure..."

Zero Population Growth was very public in it's efforts to cut the population back to a couple of billion. Rachel Carson and Margaret Sanger were idols of theirs.

I believe they changed their name, but not their goals.

Michael Frazier
32 posted on 05/11/2006 6:50:19 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: citizenmike
Good morning.
"...I still don't understand why so many of you are critical of environmentalists."

You should ask someone who used to work in the timber industry what they think of environmentalists.

Environmentalists can be found beating tom-toms at most demonstrations, but timber workers are getting harder to find.

Michael Frazier
33 posted on 05/11/2006 7:03:51 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Petronski
I'm convinced Rachel Carson's war on DDT was a stealth population control measure, to reduce the number of poor brown people in the world.

I disagree. Environmentalists want to eliminate the whole human race.

34 posted on 05/11/2006 8:20:34 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I always thought this was a perfect example of the "Road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions".


35 posted on 05/11/2006 10:45:11 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: backhoe

Excellent links! This article (and the ones you linked) illuminate all the naked hypocrisy of the leftists' usual hysteria about eeeeevil corporatism. I read "Silent Spring" as a teenager, and it shaped (cough) er, warped my views for years.

Sometimes, I think, for some of these "true believers", you have to do an intervention, sort of like rescuing them from a cult, to get them thinking clearly again.


36 posted on 05/11/2006 10:58:59 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Friends don't let friends ride with a Kennedy.)
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To: alwaysconservative
Thanks for looking. I decided a long time ago that many on the Left abhor religion, and thus make other "things" ( the environment, abortion, etc. ) a psuedo-religion in its stead.
37 posted on 05/11/2006 4:36:05 PM PDT by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: Petronski

I disagree. I think Dr. Carson was guilty only of thinking about one thing at a time, and like most excessive environmentalists, never considered the impact of her work outside of one very specific goal. Single-mindedness seems to go hand in hand with fanaticism. The end result was the same.
IMHO, the benefit of eliminating DDT was seen immediately by the Zero Population Growith people, who were more than happy to jump on that particular bandwagon.


38 posted on 05/27/2006 2:41:49 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: Petronski

I disagree. I think Dr. Carson was guilty only of thinking about one thing at a time, and like most excessive environmentalists, never considered the impact of her work outside of one very specific goal. Single-mindedness seems to go hand in hand with fanaticism. The end result was the same.
IMHO, the benefit of eliminating DDT was seen immediately by the Zero Population Growth people, who were more than happy to jump on that particular bandwagon.


39 posted on 05/27/2006 2:42:01 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The Schadenfreude of it all...

No DDT=malaria

No DDT=West Nile
West Nile = millions of dead birds...

She caused human deaths and deaths of the birds she wanted to protect.


40 posted on 05/27/2006 3:06:42 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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