GOP Party Census Insults Conservatives

10 May 2006 | wgflyer

[wgflyer]

To All,

I just received a Republican Party Census Document in the mail. Reading through the questions and the selectable answers I begin to understand that the GOP is in a similar dilema to that of the Dems. They seem to be trying to figure out strategy based upon polls rather than trying to actually stand for something...

[Coop]

Hey Oldbill, I share your concern! I have provided a nice outlet for your frustration in Post #59, since we are all working for more conservative representation. Right?

And I KNOW fine folks like you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Right?

[Coop]

Hey, CWO, can you please do me a favor and monitor the Irey for Congress website? I'll be busy covering the Steele for Senate web page. I want to be sure neither of them crash due to the huge number of "concerned conservatives" that will be pouring in there any minute now...

[CWOJackson]

LOL! Are you confusing "concerned" with "real" and "true"?

[conservativecorner]

How do you know that? How could you know what we Conservatives/Republicans [notice I put Conservative before Republican. It's on purpose.] give of our time and money to a Party or candidates? Where do you come up with this stuff? Making statements about fellow FREEPERS that can't be substantiated is just plain wrong.

[oldbill]

"They serve many purposes besides money."

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Wrongo! Evidently you've never been at the receiving end of these surveys.

You're a civic-minded volunteer. They sit you down at a table. Your instructions are "Open the envelope; Put the check in this box, the survey in that box. Separate the name ddress amount coupon from the survey (campaign finance records)" You do it. Regularly somebody comes buy to collect the checks (they don't trust you). Less regulary somebody comes buy to get the coupons (to add you to the mailing list and please the FEC). At the end of the day somebody comes buy to collect the surveys. They get boxed up and stuck in a corner or closet. Several days later they are thrown out, never having been tabulated.

Now as I said, you are really civic minded. You notice that some of the surveys have written comments, some quite eloquent. You point this out to somebody in charge. They feign interest and then throw it back into the pile.

So what purpose do they serve besides money and mailing lists?

[conservativecorner]

Have you ever heard of Club For Growth? They support fiscal Conservatives. I support them, and other causes including giving directly to Conservative candidates. I won't throw the baby out with the bath water. There are plenty of good Conservative Republicans out there to support, but I won't support someone [say Chafee for instance] just because he says he's a Republican.

[Coop]

Making statements about fellow FREEPERS that can't be substantiated is just plain wrong.

You mean like calling someone a Republican, not a conservative?

How do you know that? How could you know what we Conservatives/Republicans [notice I put Conservative before Republican. It's on purpose.] give of our time and money to a Party or candidates? Where do you come up with this stuff?

And what are you whining about now? I, out of the goodness of my heart, provided a mechanism for you, OldBill and other "concerned conservatives" to donate directly to conservative candidates, thereby bypassing the RNC, NRSC and other Republican groups that apparently give you so much heartburn. And as thanks, you start shrieking like a teen groupie? Very nice.

[Osage Orange]

Best response? Send them those Gringo Bucks

Que pasa?

[Coop]

Oh dear. I was so busy replying to some on this thread that I allowed Michael Steele's website to crash under the influx. I'm so ashamed!

[CWOJackson]

The statistics are used for all sorts of basic purposes; it's done all the time. The statistics provide them with necessary excuses for this and that.

In the mean time the RNC doesn't appear to be suffering from lack of contributions.

[Coop]

There are plenty of good Conservative Republicans out there to support, but I won't support someone [say Chafee for instance] just because he says he's a Republican.

Nor will I. Never have, never will. But that doesn't stop the accusations (which you conveniently overlook time and time again).

[conservativecorner]

I've given more to Conservative candidates this year than you will for the whole year. I can't prove this either, but I feel it.

[Coop]

You can't prove it?

Making statements about fellow FREEPERS that can't be substantiated is just plain wrong.

[conservativecorner]

"Hey, CWO, can you please do me a favor and monitor the Irey for Congress website? I'll be busy covering the Steele for Senate web page. I want to be sure neither of them crash due to the huge number of "concerned conservatives" that will be pouring in there any minute now..."

I seriously doubt [can't be sure] you or others are running or monitoring anything for Irey or Steele, but it sounds neat.

[Coop]

Wow, you saw right through my sarcasm, huh? Back to the ol' drawing board!

[conservativecorner]

I was making a point. You and others can't prove anything concerning what FREEPERS give to candidates or a Party. Thank you for reiterating the point!

[conservativecorner]

With that, I will leave the thread because the policy discussion has gone out the window. Once again, you and others have gotten personal when we were discussing policy. Thank God that Irey and Steele can talk policy without getting personal.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Where can I get some of those? It would be fun to send those in in lieu of a real donation (I haven't sent in the surveys so far).

As far as the throwing out of the surveys go, do these groups do the same thing with signed petitions?

[Coop]

No kidding? Gosh, I feel so enlightened. You make a point (an incredibly obvious one falling into the "Duh!" category, but a point nonetheless), while simultaneously ignoring all my points showing your hypocrisy.

Say, clue us all in on your insistence for always putting "FReepers" in ALLCAPS. And it's funny, but most of us FReepers don't go around using the word "FReeper" a lot. That's more along the lines of something an outsider would do. It's kinda curious, don'tcha think?

[avacado]

--- The basis of the fair tax is, you purchase the goods, you pay the tax. No loopholes, no special exemptions for favored groups, no tinkering with tax rates to implement a social agenda. It is still somewhat progressive,---

That is NOT "progressive!" That is regressive! A Fair Tax takes a higher percentage of people's money who make less than than those who make more.

The Fair Tax is a HORRIBLE idea that I hope never sees the light of day.