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While I hate to see the suffering in Africa, the Canadian (and American) government needs to think long and hard before gettign involved in any way.

Another interesting point ... as per the article, southern Sudan is described as "oil-rich". The NDP in Canada are screaming for us to take a stand and some action. Let's say we go in and get stuck there for an extended period of time ... like Canada and the US in A'stan and the US in Iraq. Will the lefties suddenly say that we're there for the oil? They may not, simply because it will be under the UN ... like that, as we know, really matters.

1 posted on 05/09/2006 5:26:15 AM PDT by NorthOf45
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2 posted on 05/09/2006 5:27:14 AM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: NorthOf45
What should be done about Darfur, that tortured region of southern Sudan where genocide reigns?

Isn't Sudan the same place that Clinton and his Administration completely ignored

3 posted on 05/09/2006 5:31:32 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: NorthOf45

The last time we intervened in a conflict involving muslims killing Christians, Clinton bombed the Serbs and sided with the muslim Albanians.


4 posted on 05/09/2006 5:38:41 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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Aren't some hollyweirdos saying we should jump into the middle of this quagmire?
5 posted on 05/09/2006 5:41:01 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Go home and fix your own country before you complain about ours.)
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To: NorthOf45
Sudan is a quagmire best left for African interlopers to solve.

Exactly. We have no business wasting blood and treasure in that cesspool.

7 posted on 05/09/2006 5:49:33 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: NorthOf45

I thought the African Union wanted to put together a multinational force from their own countries, and enforce the peace without help from outside "colonial" nations.

Oops, I forgot, this is Africa - all talk, no action, all the time.


10 posted on 05/09/2006 6:06:06 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: NorthOf45
As with all problems in Africa, much of them are legacies of Western colonialism -- more specifically European colonialism. Thus, if any Westerners must become involved there, let them be from that hemisphere.

Here's a nice little map of colonial Africa to give us an idea of whose troops should go where:

Africa 1914
11 posted on 05/09/2006 6:10:56 AM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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It's time africa solved africa's problems period.

The only way I'd support any action there would be to block the chineese from the oil, thats it.

12 posted on 05/09/2006 6:11:54 AM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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Let George Clooney and his dad save them. All the Dafur commentary in the last week or so has been a kneejerk reaction to the Clooney's propaganda filming of the camps. When I watched the interview Shep Smith did with father and son, my first thought was that they decided to stir this pot because the war in Iraq is not going to fail, and they had to point out some other American failure.

The U.N. announced last Friday afternoon that they were going to cut the food rations to the Dafur camps by half. In other words, make the Americans pay more. Sickening to the point of puking...Dafur didn't just happen last week, and why must we pay up when we constantly have to go it alone in this war? There is a vast difference between compassion and getting hosed. Let the U.N. move their operations on site over there, and help those people. Make them do their jobs. And they can take the Clooneys and the rest of Commie Hollywood with them.
13 posted on 05/09/2006 6:26:03 AM PDT by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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WHERE has Geo. Clooney been for ALL the years that Franklin Graham has been helping the Sudanese?


Graham visits a patient at a Samaritan's Purse hospital
in Lui, Sudan in 1998.

14 posted on 05/09/2006 7:06:44 AM PDT by syriacus (WHERE has Geo. Clooney been for ALL the years that Franklin Graham has been helping the Sudanese?)
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Some insightful commentary by Peter Worthington- food for thought. Kudos to walford for that excellent map. How easy it all is with such a primer.

I had often thought and berated the hapless, helpless UN for utterly betraying the original principles. After all, it was the horrible mass murder of the Jewish people, that spurred all those platitudes about wicked genocide. Never again.

It was only yesterday that the incredible films were shown of a near lynching. The camera was mounted inside a vehicle, with officials trying to gain knowledge of one of the camp conditions. Unfortunately,I did not get the precise details. It was in a refugee camp,I presume in Darfur.

Someone in the group of refugees, claimed an interpreter was a spy. Hands smashed and clutched at an unfortunate man. They started to smash windows in the vehicle. Hatred was written in the faces. A very British voice kept saying- "what is happening?" Then he kept saying "drive, drive".

These innocent people would have been torn apart- no mistake. I thought that had these refugee people been armed and trained, the cowardly thugs of Jangaweed militia, would have been toast. What a close thing that was- horrific. They made it out. Reports conflicted- either the interpreter was lynched or escaped.

17 posted on 05/09/2006 9:05:02 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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