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I'm more upset with Conservatives than I am with George W. Bush

Posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by mwfsu84

If I had told you on 9/11/2001 that we'd go four and half years and counting without another terrorist attack on US soil, would you have believed me?

If I had told you that US-led forces would secure Afghanistan in just a few months...something the Soviets couldn't accomplish in ten years...would you have thought I was crazy?

If I had told you that Saddam was gone, that Khadaffy had renounced terrorism, and that Iraq was on the verge of becoming the second democracy in the Middle East, would have thought I was on medication?

Sometimes in our disappointment of this administration, we often forget some of the positives. The economy is strong. More Americans are homeowners. With tax cuts, we're spending less time working for Uncle Sam.

And if you take those benefits for granted, just imagine how much different things would be under a President Al Gore.

So if the president's stance on immigration and spending upset you - and they do upset me - what are you going to do about it? Stay at home? Nothing could be worse for conservativism. Your non-support will usher in more immigrants, higher taxes, and weaker national security.

If the GOP loses Congress, George W. Bush will be removed from office. Nothing would embolden terrorists more. How can we be counted on to wage an effective war when we can't even decide who our enemy is?

George W. Bush isn't the enemy. But that's exactly the message conservatives will send to the world if they stay at home this November.

If you're upset with W. on immigration - write him, write a Republican Congressman, let him know how you feel. It was conservatives who got Bush to change his mind on Harriet Meirs.

I promise you, a Democratic Congress won't be nearly as responsive to your needs.


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To: Howlin

CBS News Poll. April 6-9, 2006. N=899 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults).

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"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the issue of immigration?"

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Approve Disapprove Unsure
% % %
ALL adults 26 53 21
Republicans 42 41 17
Democrats 18 63 19
Independents 20 55 25
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Trend:

10/3-5/05 21 53 26


981 posted on 05/09/2006 12:14:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: onyx
We've been invaded here by democrat shills. Most are '04 sign on's. See the latest FR poll for proof.

and it stinks to high heaven in here

982 posted on 05/09/2006 12:15:49 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: RHINO369
Have fun replacing us with your new Mexican amigos

Guess who gave Bush the most new votes in 2004?

Hispanics.

And who is thisi "40%" you are speaking of?

983 posted on 05/09/2006 12:16:59 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: RegulatorCountry
there is a desire to dismiss all the upset as some sort of odd, media-generated creature.

I think things are definitely stirring more than usual. The immigration thing is by far the worst; but the Dubai ports fiasco was no walk in the park. Those who think this is just conservatives being inconsolable crybabies are deluding themselves.

984 posted on 05/09/2006 12:17:51 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: jazusamo

Goodnight, jazusamo. :)


985 posted on 05/09/2006 12:19:15 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: EternalVigilance

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. May 2-3, 2006. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.

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"As of today, which one of the following issues will be the most important in deciding your vote for Congress this fall: [see below]?" Items rotated

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%
The economy 16
Gas prices 15
Iraq 13
Immigration 12
Health care 11
Terrorism 10
Ethics in Washington 9
Social Security 7
Other (vol.) 3
Unsure 3

986 posted on 05/09/2006 12:19:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Probably about the same; much as it must kill you, most Republicans aren't slitting their wrists over this issue.

No, they're trying to effect public policy. That's a very American thing to do, isn't it?

987 posted on 05/09/2006 12:20:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: EternalVigilance

EV, who is the "majority," you've mentioned?


988 posted on 05/09/2006 12:20:23 AM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: Howlin
40% of Hispanics vote for republicans. Thats still 60% who vote democratic. I've heard some say teh reason the republicans should accept illegal immigration is we'd get 40% of their vote.

This is silly be the Hispanic vote isn't a voting block, they are as diverse as non Hispanics and don't vote for the interests of Mexico, they vote for America.

I was poking fun at the fact that importing dozens of millions of poor minorities who lean socialist will destroy the Republican party like no base revolt ever could, and President Bush is leading the charge.
989 posted on 05/09/2006 12:20:47 AM PDT by RHINO369
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To: onyx

Rest well, onyx. Bedtime for bonzo here too. ;)


990 posted on 05/09/2006 12:21:51 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Nobody is blowing it off; but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

The problem is that the ones that push these issues, i.e., immigration or, for instance, Terri Schiavo, don't seem to understand that their strident demands for all to agree turn most people off.

But as I said, FR doesn't reflect anything close to the real world.


991 posted on 05/09/2006 12:21:54 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Oh, you poor dilluted soul!

You think that this kind of thing matters to anti-immigrant, even, I'll give 'some' of them the benefit of the doubt and call them anti-illegal-immigrant extremists?

Clearly, since they broke a law, are devestating our economy (witness, 4% unemployment. 4%! The 90% of Economist that say it's a boon to the economy are wrong, clearly, because I say so.), and are culturally backwards (even though they are more likely then their American counterparts to be involved in church and family), and should instantly be deported at least, if not executed.

They are INVADERS! They should be BURNED AT THE STAKE!

It's not enough to say, "OK, well, let's be realistic. Let's strenghten border security, but allow for a more realistic flow of immigrants (so, you know, the border security actually 'works' as opposed to stiking your finger in a breaking dam) and not talk about any of this impossible deportation-of-12-million-people (because, you know, that wouldn't, say, cost billions on top of devestating our GDP) nonsense."

It's only enough to demand 100% deportation and NO more immigrants legally.

Of course, now it's about 'legal' immigration, which most of them oppose too when you press them on specific issues, but don't change the subject.

OK, I'm done now. You get the idea.



992 posted on 05/09/2006 12:22:01 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: inquest
In your dreams. If the GOP acted to secure the border, they'd not only pick up the "disgruntled faction", but would

blah blah blah

Will you fair weather voters just ONCE take the time and tell us what the dems plans are regarding the illegals?

They had 8 years with Clinton - who had no 9-11, Katrina, etc to deal with -

What did they do about the borders????The problem has been there for decades.

Seems to me, you are following the Pied Piper Dems who have whipped this issue up to a fury, knowing there'd be enough sheeple to be suckered in.

993 posted on 05/09/2006 12:22:01 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Howlin

Your list just proves that immigration has just moved into the big time.

Only topped by gas prices, the economy and an ongoing war?

Not bad...


994 posted on 05/09/2006 12:22:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Howlin

"But as I said, FR doesn't reflect anything close to the real world."

It does on that pesky immigration thing.


995 posted on 05/09/2006 12:24:02 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

No, it doesn't. Not even close.


996 posted on 05/09/2006 12:24:36 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: TBP
I don't care whether there are more Rpublicans in COngress or fewer. What we need is more conservatives. Too many Repulbicans these days are RINOs. We need fewer of those.

But of course - you just go vote for all those "conservative democrats"

by the way, the party name is spelled REPUBLICAN. give it another stab - 3rd times the charm

997 posted on 05/09/2006 12:25:05 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Howlin

"But as I said, FR doesn't reflect anything close to the real world."

Your right about that. However you need to realize that America is pissed off about this immigration issue. America doesn't want to be Mexico. Do everyone a favor and instead of blaming the far right for being pissed(not blaming you, cause I'm not doing anything constructive about it either), we should all work together to force congress into an enforcement first policy. If they don't Republicans will lose.

If you really care what happens the best way to prevent it, is to somehow change the policy, and fast.


998 posted on 05/09/2006 12:25:08 AM PDT by RHINO369
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To: Treader
EV, who is the "majority," you've mentioned?

The majority of Republicans, who want their elected Republican leaders to act like conservatives, and not like liberals.

999 posted on 05/09/2006 12:25:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, right in front of "not sure" and "other"


1,000 posted on 05/09/2006 12:25:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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