Posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by mwfsu84
If I had told you on 9/11/2001 that we'd go four and half years and counting without another terrorist attack on US soil, would you have believed me?
If I had told you that US-led forces would secure Afghanistan in just a few months...something the Soviets couldn't accomplish in ten years...would you have thought I was crazy?
If I had told you that Saddam was gone, that Khadaffy had renounced terrorism, and that Iraq was on the verge of becoming the second democracy in the Middle East, would have thought I was on medication?
Sometimes in our disappointment of this administration, we often forget some of the positives. The economy is strong. More Americans are homeowners. With tax cuts, we're spending less time working for Uncle Sam.
And if you take those benefits for granted, just imagine how much different things would be under a President Al Gore.
So if the president's stance on immigration and spending upset you - and they do upset me - what are you going to do about it? Stay at home? Nothing could be worse for conservativism. Your non-support will usher in more immigrants, higher taxes, and weaker national security.
If the GOP loses Congress, George W. Bush will be removed from office. Nothing would embolden terrorists more. How can we be counted on to wage an effective war when we can't even decide who our enemy is?
George W. Bush isn't the enemy. But that's exactly the message conservatives will send to the world if they stay at home this November.
If you're upset with W. on immigration - write him, write a Republican Congressman, let him know how you feel. It was conservatives who got Bush to change his mind on Harriet Meirs.
I promise you, a Democratic Congress won't be nearly as responsive to your needs.
"And, certainly you don't think a FR poll is representative of the real GOP, do you?"
No, I don't. But it appears as if more than just a few people are freaking out over it. The subsequent poll, the one you posted, is a classic push poll, forcing a false decision. If the previous poll were so easily dismissed, why the need to gauge the depth of negative sentiment by polarizing the options?
You do?
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). April 21-24, 2006. N=1,005 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.
"I'm going to describe a portion of a possible new immigration law, which also would include tighter border security. This law would deal with immigrants who are here illegally in three ways, depending on how long they have been in the United States. Those who have been here for more than five years would be allowed to continue to work here for six years, and then would be allowed to apply for permanent citizenship. Those who have been here for two to five years would be required to go to a legal border entry point and register sometime in the next three years, and would then be able to return to work. Those who have been here for less than two years would be required to return to their home country and apply for entry into the United States through the normal legal channels. "Thinking about the portion of a possible immigration law I just described, would you favor or oppose this?" |
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Post all the facts about Reagan you want. Will your list of "facts" also be cherry-picked to put Reagan in the worst possible light?
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Freudian slip maybe!
I'm perfectly aware of the history, thank you. And all the terms, etc. But in the case of today, you have all the talking points of Pelosi and Dean.
Mabye a few more, but no more than our usually freak-out contingent over whatever hot button issue comes along.
I wasn't going to pop in again on this thread until I read your post, staytrue. I can't go to bed without giving you the applause your post deserves. I've said it before and I'll say it again; the far-left Liberals are to the Democrats what the far-right Conservatives are to Republicans. Both are so far "out there" that they wouldn't see middle ground if it jumped up and bit them in the derriere.
Okay, you got me. I disagree with the 1005 adults they polled.
How do you think they'd do if they polled "likely voters" or "Republicans"?
You read it; I think onyx posted the facts.
No I'm not, I'm saying the President needs to go to the right. The President has failed on everything hes tried to compromise with the democrats on.
Cock a doodle dooooo
Probably about the same; much as it must kill you, most Republicans aren't slitting their wrists over this issue.
Amen!
Shut up, clueless. We know the drill.
And it's President Bush around here ya gasbag!
It's really late here. I'm off to bed. Have fun, y'all!
You don't think someone could put together a list of Bush "facts" that would make him sound left of Stalin? The point is that the intent of that list, being directed to a conservative audience, is essentially a smear.
"Mabye a few more, but no more than our usually freak-out contingent over whatever hot button issue comes along."
Hot button issues are hot button issues. They've always been there; it's just accelerating. We're living in strange times, and there's a lot swirling around out there. I get the sense (in general, not directed at you) that there is a desire to dismiss all the upset as some sort of odd, media-generated creature. I see it as being all interconnected. Blowing it off will be a mistake, and potentially a big one, imho.
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