Posted on 05/08/2006 4:06:47 PM PDT by skandalon
She says she considered quitting her role as campaign adviser over the issue of gay marriage, but Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter Mary Cheney tells ABC News "Primetime" anchor Diane Sawyer her sexuality has never created problems within her family.
Mary Cheney discussed the campaign, her feelings about President Bush, life with her partner of 14 years, and what it was like to come out as gay to her parents.
"I struggled with my decision to stay on the 2004 campaign," Cheney told "Primetime." Her personal challenge came when President Bush said the nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
No. If you can't express and show the value of a moral code and it's purpose w/o reference to the authority of some being, it is worthless.
"Aleister Crowley's creed, “Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law,”
This is equivalent to no law whatsoever.
Morality and all of those associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior. Good or bad isn't the question. Good, bad, right wrong, evil, moral; all of these are purely religious concepts.
The modern leftist interpretation of the First Amendment says that Government must exorcise all traces of religion and theism from its self. Therefore, the Government should never consider issues of morality and of right and wrong.
So, it becomes a question of benefits versus costs, not a question of right and wrong. Fetus killing has its benefits to society, especially if you like to sleep late on Saturday. But, it also has its costs as well. Society (by which I mean whoever manages to seize power) needs to evaluate these costs and decide accordingly.
The mythical rights of women or men are also meaningless.
The very concept of rights is also founded in religion. Since the enlightened person is freed from any primitive superstitions about some ‘God’ they are free from having to worry about rights. Only raw power counts, and humans are just meat puppets for the powerful.
It is the equivalence you were making...
“Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...”Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).
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Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States, 136 U.S. 1, 10 S.Ct. 792, 34 L. Ed. 478 (1890). Revised as 140 U.S. 665, 11 S.Ct. 884, 35 L. Ed. 592 (1891).
No man may become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion...
No.
Individual sovereignty of will is a right inherent in each man to do as they choose and to determine their own destiny.It is the equivalence you were making. Now, you lied about it...
Whatever that means. The 1st Amend. says the govm't is forbidden from interfering with the free exercise of religion. Given that, I fully expect a legion of govm't bozos would stand up and utter such rubbish like this, in support of some jack-ass law.
Just checking in: this is still a thread about lesbians, right?
You brought in the nazi BS. Maybe you ought to get a dictionary and learn what the word equivalence means. Then learn how to make a rational and accurate comparison.
Perhaps you should ask yourself that question?
What consenting adults do in their own homes is not your business.
This thread is about Mary Cheney - not some fanatsized homosexualization of society.
"Why? Homosexual activity is shameful. And there is no such thing as 'gayness'. Everyone is heterosexual, some are just disordered"
'Gayness' is the description of the disorder, hence it exists.
Every disorder has a name.
“Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...”Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).
- - See also:
Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States, 136 U.S. 1, 10 S.Ct. 792, 34 L. Ed. 478 (1890). Revised as 140 U.S. 665, 11 S.Ct. 884, 35 L. Ed. 592 (1891).
No man may become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion...
God of course is King of the Jews.
John 19:19 ¶ And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
21 Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
22 Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
So this really ticked off the religious leaders (equating Jesus to God) but there was nothing they could do about it. The truth always comes out.
That is because you do not understand scripture and refuse to understand scripture.
me->"He did however give permission (read the scriptures. especially the start of deuteronomy where it says that Moses spoke as God commanded."
you->God gave neither His permission, nor did He command Moses to write what was written.
There you go again with your fingers in your ears. Read the scriptures. If you won't listen to me then maybe you'll listen to God. (Although I doubt it. You're too invested in your own agenda to admit that God even exists)
And, that is exactly what she is all about...
While I agree with your point I disagree with the words. "gayness" seems to imply a characteristic rather than a disease. Now if we used "Same-sex Attraction Disorder" (SADs) then it would work out better.
I hate to give the mentally ill something they can grab onto to claim they were 'born that way'.
Mary Cheney has been making the rounds on the MSM lately. I caught a little bit of an interview, she said homosexual marriage will be recognized in America within ten years, just like Europe.
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Check in with the first post... to find out what the topic is...
"I hate to give the mentally ill something they can grab onto to claim they were 'born that way'."
I agree that homos will use anything to justify their activity.
Then exchange the word 'gayness' for 'homosexuality' (or "Same-sex Attraction Disorder", as you say), as homosexuality can be accepted as a disorder, even if homosexuals want to claim that it's 'born that way'.
If it's a disorder, it's a disorder, whatever the name used. Even if homosexuals claim to be born that way, it doesn't stop it being a disorder and being something to be curtailed.
I know that a number here only see a homosexual as one who 'does' the homo sex. Whereas the disorder exists in the brain/mind, and not in the actions. The actions are a demonstration of the disorder. I should know.
That all said, people will still use the word 'gayness', and we know what they mean by that, even though I don't use the term myself.
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