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Barry's place in history may be secure for any number of reasons; but not for being better than the Babe. I would have to see a few more pitching wins in Bond's stats to rank him above Mr. Ruth, the steals not withstanding.
1 posted on 05/08/2006 1:59:12 PM PDT by PerConPat
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I'm not in favor of an asterisk next to Barry's name in the record book. Instead...

Barry Bonds [-[######>---


45 posted on 05/08/2006 2:15:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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Bonds deserves more than just the asteris. If its true that he pumped him self up with roids (which I believe to be true), then he deserves to be stricken from the history books. Period.

Bonds is no where near the man Ruth was. Never will be either.


46 posted on 05/08/2006 2:15:53 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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We know who Babe Ruth is over here. Barry Bonds only received mention from the BBC because of his steroid use.

Regards, Ivan


51 posted on 05/08/2006 2:19:44 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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I was listening to the radio on a rather lengthy drive this afternoon and the news came on between Rush segments. The news reader said that in yesterdays game Bonds hit a home run and it was caught by a US serviceman - The serviceman is going to keep the ball but Bonds said he would NOT sign it - what a creep !!!!!!!!


54 posted on 05/08/2006 2:21:13 PM PDT by finallyatexan
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To compare Barry Bonds with Babe Ruth - wait, I can't believe I would even put them in the same sentence. Bonds couldn't carry Babe's golf clubs.


62 posted on 05/08/2006 2:27:16 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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The only hall for the egotistical Bonds is the "Hall of Shame." Bonds should shut his mouth, it defames his father who was a excellent ball player, but obviously not much of a parent.

The left field banners in Philadelphia yesterday said it well.

67 posted on 05/08/2006 2:30:01 PM PDT by im4eagles (and the eagles shall soar above)
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Who knows, Ruth possibily would have also taken whatever if whatever was available at the time.


81 posted on 05/08/2006 2:35:06 PM PDT by Sonora
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Ruth's stats:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ruthba01.shtml

Bond's stats:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bondsba01.shtmL


86 posted on 05/08/2006 2:39:19 PM PDT by rwfok
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Since MLB has tacitly endorsed the use of steroids by its players, I have absolutely no use for them any more. I don't look at the scores. I don't watch the games on TV. I don't buy tickets. They aren't making any $$ off me at all.

Hope it was worth it for ya. Professional baseball is dead.

90 posted on 05/08/2006 2:42:51 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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How many championships does Bonds have again? If he can just keep playing until he catched up with Ruth in that category.


94 posted on 05/08/2006 2:46:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I read somewhere years ago that Ruth hit around twice as many home runs per time at bat as any of the modern home run leaders.

Don't know if it is true but may well be as they only played 154 games plus Ruth started as a pitcher. He was a good one too.

95 posted on 05/08/2006 2:46:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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Barry's place in history may be secure for any number of reasons; but not for being better than the Babe. I would have to see a few more pitching wins in Bond's stats to rank him above Mr. Ruth, the steals not withstanding.

Don't forget - the baseballs are a lot more "juiced" today too!

106 posted on 05/08/2006 2:53:39 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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Ruth changed the game and is legend... Bonds brought it disgrace... and his numbers will forever be associated with it. Ruth was bigger than life... but life was too big for Bonds.


118 posted on 05/08/2006 2:57:31 PM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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I remember back around 1958 a guy on TV asked Casey Stengel how Ty Cobb would do against the pitchers of that day.

Stengel said he would hit around 270. The announcer mentioned that wasn't very good. Stengel said, "you have to realize that Cobb is in his 70's .

123 posted on 05/08/2006 2:58:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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Mom - Baseball - Apple Pie -

Where'd all the good people go?
140 posted on 05/08/2006 3:09:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep Lubbock Flat)
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145 posted on 05/08/2006 3:14:29 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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hmmm...

Let's see here...

Ruth was equal to him as a hitter....

Bonds was the better base stealer, although Ruth wasn't a bad baserunner himself....

Ruth was the better fielder (he would have thrown out a cripple like Sid Bream in 1992)...

Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher had he not been such a great hitter.

Ruth is the better of the two players. It isn't close.

Now Ruth isn't the best player ever either. He's #2.

Willie Mays was the best ever.

Bonds isn't even in the top 10.


147 posted on 05/08/2006 3:16:13 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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I'd like to see Bonds pitch a perfect game. Ruth did that. I'd like to see him pitch a single game and win. Rush won over a hundred as a pitcher.

TS
(Ruth actually pitched a perfect game as a reliever. The first pitcher stuck the batter before leaving the game. Ruth then stepped in, picked the runner off at first and didn't allow another batter to make it to first base for the rest of the game. And now you know the Rest of the Story.)

149 posted on 05/08/2006 3:18:10 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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Saw a photo in the sports pages a few days ago... Bonds walking to the outfield and the fans in the bleechers holding a sign reading something along the line of "Babe hit his HRs on beer and hotdogs."

Priceless... and true!

Trajan88 (Plano, TX Yankee #23)

164 posted on 05/08/2006 3:40:32 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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An amazing thread. I remember arguments like this many years ago with my friends about who was the best baseball player; what would have happened if black players could play in the majors; what about Latin Americans; what if Japan had taken up baseball in the 1930's instead of imperialism...

One thing for sure; only one pitcher can pitch at a time, and only one batter can bat at the same time.

Comparing one era in a sport to another is good fun, but the real measure of a player's greatness is who remembers him after the game changes and the current heroes change.

How many kids today can identify which sport George Mikan played, let alone which team he played for?

How about Sam Huff? (I would have said Ray Nitzche, but I can't spell his name.)

Babe Ruth will be a legend for a long time, and has been a legend for a long time already. And that's because he was the dominant player of his time. There is no house that Jordan built. Comparing a mortal like Barry Bonds to Babe Ruth might keep people busy for a while, but it's not fair to Barry Bonds.

166 posted on 05/08/2006 3:41:49 PM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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