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Moussaoui Will Never Rot in Prison
Wall Street Journal ^ | 5/5/06 | DANIEL HENNINGER

Posted on 05/05/2006 4:24:36 AM PDT by mathprof

Need an antidote to the Moussaoui verdict? Go out this weekend to see "United 93."

Zacarias Moussaoui is lucky the jurors at his sentencing trial weren't allowed to see the movie "United 93" the day before reaching a verdict. If they had, rather than handing him life in prison, it is likely that one or more of the jurors would have come out of the box to deliver the death sentence himself -- just as the four doomed men on Flight 93 charged their hijackers to stop its fanatic pilots from flying the airliner into another American building.

Some will say the Moussaoui life sentence merely proves that we in the U.S. are beyond biblical justice, beyond an eye for an eye, even if our Islamic enemies do not bother to claim any grievance larger than resentment to justify the most startling slaughter of innocents all over the world. This argument -- that the refusal to impose the death penalty on Moussaoui shows "we are not like them" -- might have been entertainable before September 11. It may no longer be. [snip]

Our sense of normalcy may not be in our best interest.

As an example, one thought that occurred in the hour after seeing "United 93" had to do with the recent debate in the U.S. over the warrantless wiretapping of suspected phone calls between terrorists. In that hour, this "debate" seemed quite otherworldly. It is unlikely that in the first six months after September 11 Sen. Arlen Specter would ever have thought to intone that the wiretapping program was "in flat violation" of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But he does now. Times change.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; moussaui; waronterr
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To: Jim Noble

france has already started the process based on treaty.

The state department will control this transfer issue and I submit the state department does NOT have the interests of the USA at their core.


61 posted on 05/05/2006 6:03:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gorzaloon
People sometimes die in prison.

And sometimes planes crash.

It's possible that one could crash into a prison, too, I suppose...

62 posted on 05/05/2006 6:03:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: mathprof
With all due respect to the author, maggot Mousse will rot in prison, if he doesn't go insane first. He's going to the Supermax in Florence Co.

And with all due respect to fellow Freepers, He will not be killed by any fellow inmate nor become some Prison Imam converting fellow inmates to Jihad, nor will be be given any of the regular stew-pid stuff we normally hear prisoners are allowed, like cable TV -- not at this place. This joint is the modern day Alcatraz, only worse.

  1. He will be in complete isolation from any human for the rest of his life, except for minimal contact with guards. There is no "General Population".
  2. He will be in in his 7'x12' CONCRETE and soundproof cell 23 hours a day.
  3. His 1 hour of exercise period will also be in an isolated concrete cell - all by his lonesome and IN shackles.
  4. He will never again see the sky or the sun again. This place is 60 feet underground. Any 'natural light' comes though opaque windows / skylights - a nice shade of gray is all he'll ever see again.1
  5. Everything in his cell is made out of concrete, sink toilet and bed. He gets a nice thin mattress to sleep on.
  6. He'll be monitored 24/7 by CCTV
  7. To practice his religion, it will be 'piped in' over that closed circuit TV. No "arrow to Mecca" for him.

This place was built after a Guard at Marion, the previous "Supermax", was killed. Security at Marion was found 'lacking' as there was limited inmate contact. So like with Alcatraz the "G" said, we need to be tougher and Florence was the result.

So no, Mousse will Rot in Prison, or go completely insane.

1 - Wiki says the cell windows "point towards the sky". This contrary to the info I have heard on this matter being its 60' underground.

63 posted on 05/05/2006 6:04:12 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Graybeard58

in supermax he will not have any contact with other people.

He is in virtual solitary.

If he is not insane now, he will be insane in 40 years.


64 posted on 05/05/2006 6:05:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Dahoser

LOL! Maybe the best way to bump somebody off is to convince the Clintons that he's their enemy.


65 posted on 05/05/2006 6:11:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: Gone GF

never say never

What about McCain? Hitlary? Kerry? Dean? (especially dean)


McCain imagines himself a tactical genius and may think releasing him would be a "good message".

Over time people will forget just as the democrats have intentionally forgotten and how CNN ABC NBC CBS MSNBC no longer allow images of 9/11 to appear. (censorship to help leftists)


66 posted on 05/05/2006 6:12:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
He will be; France won't bother to stick up for this scumbag. Might I also mention that the Joint CIA cooperation center is in Paris---and that the French cooperate far more closely with the US on WOT than even the British? This just doesn't make for sexy headlines...

Help from France Key in Covert Operations

67 posted on 05/05/2006 6:17:26 AM PDT by austinTparty
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To: Valin
...he said large number of prisoners there end up going insane.

That'll be a short trip for this scumbag.

68 posted on 05/05/2006 6:17:53 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (A hermit is a deserter from the army of humanity.)
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To: mathprof

Can he at least become fetid?


69 posted on 05/05/2006 6:21:18 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Graybeard58
One of them will kill him - That's my prediction.

If he were to be in the general population, that would be possible. My understanding is he will be in lock down in his cell 23 hours a day, with one hour of exercise, all under constant surveillance. He won't be allowed to even make eye contact with other prisoners. Pretty tough for another inmate to kill him if they can't get to him....

70 posted on 05/05/2006 6:23:26 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Jim Noble

You forgot Hollywood. They'll turn him into their latest cause celebre, declaring him a "political prisoner" who is being "tortured." Forget Mumia. This guy has real marquee value.

The French wouldn't release him right away if they got him. They'd hold him for a few months, then free him to go about his business of killing.


71 posted on 05/05/2006 6:24:04 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Old Grumpy

Hey .......it worked for Jeff Dahmer........maybe this piece of pig-sh*t can get the same roommate.......that way he will get to meet Jesus and ahlah all in the same day!


72 posted on 05/05/2006 6:26:05 AM PDT by newcthem (All along I thought I was an American.......now I find that I am just a racist.)
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To: Valin
"large number of prisoners there end up going insane."

This guy's got a big headstart.

73 posted on 05/05/2006 6:26:50 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: Elsie
And sometimes planes crash.

It's possible that one could crash into a prison, too, I suppose...

Poetic Justice award for THAT idea....

Since he thought everything was so FUNNY, then he should be able to take a joke.

WHERE is Vlad Tepes when we need him?

74 posted on 05/05/2006 6:27:48 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Condor51

There are illustrations in a Washington Post article today which show it aboveground, but the windows are only four inches wide.


75 posted on 05/05/2006 6:28:38 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: austinTparty

I'm sure a lot goes on behind the scenes that isn't reported than I'll ever be able to keep up with.


76 posted on 05/05/2006 6:28:49 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Southern, Conservitive and Proud of it - Hmmm)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

I call this the Ice Berg war...90% of it is below the surface.


77 posted on 05/05/2006 6:31:33 AM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: mkjessup

The jurors said that they were afraid of retaliation.

This kind of cowardace is really what is behind anti-Bush sentiment. They think if we'd just leave the Muslims alone, they would leave us alone.

The problems with keeping the terrorist goofball alive is (1) a stupid Federal judge might decide he deserves to get out -- the Left will be filled with stories of Moussaoui's "mistreatment" in prison (2) a stupid Federal judge undoubtedly will decide that he needs to be relocated to a place where he can meet with the press every day.

And then we will never be spared his rantings.


78 posted on 05/05/2006 6:32:11 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

And a good thing, too! Many people in the State Department and DHS get severely stressed out knowing about many of the threats and dangers that never become public... but I guarantee, this is one guy France ain't about to stand up for. On the other hand, French prisons are notoriously horrible places. Buried alive; living hell -- take your pick! :-)


79 posted on 05/05/2006 6:39:07 AM PDT by austinTparty
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To: Valin
I believe he get 3 showers a week not 1.

Most likely 3 more than he usually takes.

80 posted on 05/05/2006 6:41:57 AM PDT by Dahoser (Time to condense the stupid party nonsense: Terry Tate for RNC chairman.)
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