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UW Diversity Efforts Fall Short; Big Gaps in Graduation Rates (Oh, The Horror!)
Madison.com ^ | May 4, 2006 | Aaron Nathans

Posted on 05/04/2006 4:25:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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Here's your Money Quote, Kids!

"UW System President Kevin Reilly said 'pre-college programs appear to be successful, but require more money that UW doesn't currently have.'"

1 posted on 05/04/2006 4:25:38 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Murray, Herrnstein, "The Bell Curve", 1994.


2 posted on 05/04/2006 4:30:25 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"UW System President Kevin Reilly said 'pre-college programs appear to be successful, but require more money that UW doesn't currently have.'"

You know -- for Outreach. And studies. And outreach studies. And stuff.

3 posted on 05/04/2006 4:33:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "undocumented workers." Use the correct term: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Why not just mandate equal graduation rates and be done with it?

Of course, the degrees granted to minorities would have little objective value, but that hasn't concerned the educrats much in the past...

5 posted on 05/04/2006 4:34:49 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

isn't this the same college the photoshopped minorities into their 'fake but accurate' admission brochures?


6 posted on 05/04/2006 4:35:02 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (lead ,follow or get out of the majority.start with our borders.)
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To: Rakkasan1

I don't know for sure, but I would not doubt that for one second. ;)


7 posted on 05/04/2006 4:37:15 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"... graduated at a rate of 32 percent over six years, a rate 33 percent lower than their white counterparts (65 percent of whom graduated within six years)."

My math skills are waning...is that not over 50% lower?


8 posted on 05/04/2006 4:37:54 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Every one does not belong in college.

The proliferation of B/S degrees coincides with the thinking that you need a college degree to wipe your behind.
9 posted on 05/04/2006 4:38:23 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: GSlob
"Murray, Herrnstein, "The Bell Curve", 1994.

These poor gentlemen were labeled as "racists" in my text books for my racial-sensitivity-ethnic-studies-leftist-indoctrination course I had to take in college.

10 posted on 05/04/2006 4:40:44 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Their next step will probably be mandated grade inflation for these poor minorities (to keep things in line with affirmative action in admissions, hiring, promotions, etc.) Those pesky college graduation rates mess it all up for them.


11 posted on 05/04/2006 4:43:31 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

Well, why didn't you claim being already allergic, i.e. hyper-sensitive?


12 posted on 05/04/2006 4:52:22 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: TASMANIANRED
Very true. Not everyone belongs in college.
“Concerning the advancement of learning, I do subscribe to the opinion… that, for grammar schools, there are already too many… the great number of schools which are in your Highness’s realm doth cause a want, and likewise an overthrow [surfeit] – both of them inconvenient and one of them dangerous; for by means thereof they find want in the country and towns, both of servants for husbandry and of apprentices for trade; and on the other side there being more Scholars bred than the State can prefer and employ… it must needs fall out that many persons will be bred unfit for other vocations and unprofitable for that in which they were bred up, which will fill the realm full of indigent, idle and wanton people…”
Francis Bacon, 1611 letter to James I
13 posted on 05/04/2006 4:57:45 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This articles says NOTHING about the male/female composite.

According to data released this week, black students who entered a UW institution in 1999 graduated at a rate of 32 percent over six years, a rate 33 percent lower than their white counterparts (65 percent of whom graduated within six years). Latino students in that class graduated a rate of just over 40 percent.

Black students made up 2.7 percent of the undergraduate student body at UW institutions in 1998, compared to 2.8 percent last year, according to the data. Latino students made up 1.8 percent of that group in 1998, compared to 2.2 percent last year.

Were I a guy, I most certainly wouldn't wanna be at U Wisconsin.

I'm under the impression that Valeria Solanas is revered as a saint at U Wisconsin. You know.. the moonbat who authored the "SCUM Manifesto"? The Society for Cutting up men"?

And then there's Donna Shalala, new chancellor of the University of Wisconsin:

snip:

In 1988, as one of her first acts as the new chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Donna Shalala convened a get-to-know-you meeting with student government leaders. Suddenly, the meeting was crashed by Black Student Union leaders angry about the tiny share of minorities in the student and faculty population as well as offensive actions by some fraternity members.

"Chancellor Shalala, you have a major issue with the racial climate here!" thundered Charles Holley, co-president of the BSU.

"Charles Holley, I know who you are. I know we have a problem. And we are going to do something about it," Shalala calmly replied, defusing tensions. Holley says Shalala really impressed him when the 5-foot-tall daughter of Lebanese immigrants then gave him a perfectly authentic soul handshake. "As my grandfather would say, you could tell she had been out after dark," Holley says, laughing.

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14 posted on 05/04/2006 4:58:45 PM PDT by Alia
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Murray, Herrnstein, "The Bell Curve", 1994.

I first read the first version Of The Bell Curve in the late 1960's. It was called raciest banned from Colleges and pulled from all the book stores.

15 posted on 05/04/2006 6:17:39 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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"I first read the first version Of The Bell Curve in the late 1960's. "
??? - They said that they started writing the book much later than 1960s. You probably read some other work on the topic.
16 posted on 05/05/2006 3:55:25 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Rakkasan1

Sure is...Check it out here:
http://www.sree.net/teaching/photoethics.html
Scroll to the bottom...


17 posted on 05/05/2006 4:06:55 AM PDT by Damocles ("This young century will be Liberty's century" - President Bush)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Although it doesn't state this stat, I am pretty sure that Wisconsins overall population doesn't reach 33% African Americans, with majority living in Milwaukee and Madison. I also know that Milwaukees high school graduation rate is something like only 47%. So I guess what the Universities need to do would be recruit from out - of - state to achieve more "diversity".

End result... It will be much more difficult for my white, middle class son to get into UW in 2 years!!!!

18 posted on 05/05/2006 4:09:17 AM PDT by codercpc
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http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/55000.html

Yep. We're 88% white. Just shy of 6% black and about 4% hispanic. Looks like they've got their work cut out for them, LOL!

Diversity is so stupid. Just let the kids who excel, excel and those that don't just live lower on the Food Chain. This fruitless "evening of the playing field" is socialism, pure and simple.

My son is attending a tech college right now. I refused to fund an education through the UW System. He's not cut out to be an English Major, LOL! He'll be a Computer Repair guy or a Heating & A/C guy (he's doing both now, plus changing oil at a shop, so maybe a mechanic?)and any job he chooses of the three will be about $25/hour to start with his degree.

That's plenty of money to afford to marry and start cranking out the Grandkids for me, LOL! :)


19 posted on 05/05/2006 5:38:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: GSlob
No the Flynn effect and "The Bell Curve" and "IO" are previous publications. They were savaged in the newspapers and protested on campus. It was called a raciest idea and any publications were drove from the marketplace. If you are younger than 50 you would probably not heard of it until the 90's. They were banned and are not remembered. The old version broke down IQ by race and offended many.

"Perhaps the most prominent critic of The Bell Curve was the late Stephen Jay Gould, who in 1996 released a revised and expanded edition of his 1981 work The Mismeasure of Man"

Gould's first publication in 1981 was to refute the publications of IQ and The Bell Curve of the 1960's. There was no need because you cannot find a reference nor a copy today.

My late Irish professor and Irish friend and a PHD of Science Dr. Thomas Gillespie was to speak in Canada on the topic in 1969. The bell curve showed the Irish to be of lesser IO and I teased him about how he would reconcile that with his position as the knowledgeable speaker. He replied, easy, by the time I get to Canada I will be of some other ancestry.

If you live long enough you will discover that some things that are too controversial for society simply disappear and after 40-50 years are not remembered by most.

20 posted on 05/05/2006 6:35:31 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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