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Moussaoui Gets Life in Prison (No Death Penalty for the Ranting Jihadist Looney Tune)
Breitbart.com ^ | 05/03/06 | Michael J. Sniffer

Posted on 05/03/2006 1:44:47 PM PDT by MikeA

A federal jury decided Wednesday al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui deserves life in prison for his role in the deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history, on Sept. 11, 2001.

On the seventh day of deliberation, the jury of nine men and three women informed Judge Leonie Brinkema that it had reached a decision. The verdict was announced at 4:30 p.m. EDT.

Moussaoui, a 37-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent, is the only person charged in this country in connection with the suicide jetliner hijackings that killed nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field.

The verdict came after four years of legal maneuvering and a six-week trial that put jurors on an emotional roller coaster.

The panel of northern Virginia residents was shown gruesome never- before-released images of the carnage that day, heard the first public playing of the cockpit recorder from United Flight 93 whose passengers tried to retake the jet over Pennsylvania, and watched and listened as dozens of victims and relatives described the horrors and losses they had endured.

The nine men and three women deliberated about 40 hours. They had found Moussaoui eligible for execution after more than 16 hours of deliberations in late March and early April.

Although he was in jail on immigration violations on Sept. 11, the jury ruled that lies he told federal agents the month before the attacks kept the government from identifying and stopping some of the hijackers.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaidaislaughing; moussaoui; terrorism; terrortrials; usalaughingstock; wot
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To: sinkspur

"If he goes to Supermax in Florence, Colorado he will live for a very long time."

They said on O'reilly's last night it would be SuperMax for him, but it was never explained how / whom gets to go there and who decides ??


201 posted on 05/04/2006 10:46:47 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: Mike Darancette

"I hope they show many Christian Religious programs."

You pick the service you want and it is only piped in via a speaker in your cell !!


202 posted on 05/04/2006 10:48:43 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: Robe
"I wonder what all the "I Glad he got life" ,"Denied him Martyrship" crowd will say when
30-40 American Hostages are displayed on the tube with black clad knif wielding terrorist
demanding his release.
What will they say when the first one is beheaded?"

Even if got the DP, it takes years to care it out in this country so your scenario could have still happened !!
203 posted on 05/04/2006 10:54:41 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: LM_Guy
I'll say that if it wasn't him they were demanding in trade, it'd be the blind sheikh or someone else.

Why not KSM? Or Bin al-Shibh? Or Reid?

What in the world is the difference?

204 posted on 05/04/2006 11:31:55 AM PDT by lugsoul ("Crash" - the movie that teaches we are all incurable racists, except when we are not.)
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To: lugsoul

So you're thinking that Lance is lying when he says the FBI set up a sting operation but cancelled it when it was discovered that Yousef was able to talk with operatives overseas and order fake passports? I don't quite get where you're going with this.

My original post was that I'm not pleased that Moussy is alive because it's entirely possible that he'll find a way, through a guard or doctor to communicate with other jihadists or with Yousef. And my post illuminated that even in solitary confinement in this particular federal prison, it's entirely possible that Moussy will find a way to communicate with other jihadists.


205 posted on 05/04/2006 1:17:30 PM PDT by Peach
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To: lugsoul

I am saying those jurors by their decision are enablers of terrorism.

If a jury of one's peers doesn't signify a jury of like minded individuals, what the heck does it signify?

The Constitution plainly calls for, "an impartial jury."


206 posted on 05/04/2006 2:39:04 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Those waiting to legally immigrate, weren't invited to the illegal alien Mayday riot.Why ?)
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To: Peach
I'm saying that Lance appears to be relaying a big story with evidence sufficient to support a little story.

He paints Yusef as some kind of jihadi puppeteer from inside a supermax.

No, I don't believe it.

207 posted on 05/04/2006 3:24:03 PM PDT by lugsoul ("Crash" - the movie that teaches we are all incurable racists, except when we are not.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Gotcha. Voting to send a terrorist to a supermax for life in 'enabling.'


208 posted on 05/04/2006 3:24:37 PM PDT by lugsoul ("Crash" - the movie that teaches we are all incurable racists, except when we are not.)
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To: MikeA

Worst thing of all - they did NOT find him to be crazy, etc - they basicall threw out ALL of the mitigating circumstances his attorneys put out there.

I'd like to know who these people on the jury are - They should not have had the right to make this obviously incorrect and harmful decision on behalf of all US citizens. This should have been a military trial.

Oh well, I'll just sit back and feel good about how fair and merciful we are, while the terrorists laugh and pack their explosives... Sad sad sad.


209 posted on 05/04/2006 4:00:01 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle ("Better put some ice on that")
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To: All

Does anybody know when exactly Zacarias Moussaoui will finally be in his cell where he will spend the rest of his life? Now? Or next week? What's the process?


210 posted on 05/04/2006 4:01:57 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: MaineVoter2002

FOX News is going to show where he will be holed up very shortly.


211 posted on 05/04/2006 4:03:47 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: lugsoul
there has never been any decision holding that jurors must have similar avocations or criminal experiences as the accused

No, but there have been countless rulings allowing jury tailoring, that is throwing out jurors thought likely to convict, or likely to acquit on the prosecution side. Impartial does not mean totally uniformed.

Go read the jury questionnaire in the Moussaoui case and see if you don't think many of the questions are designed to allow just such tailoring. Jurors can be challenged for cause, if one side or the other can convince the judge they would not be "impartial", but somehow the practice has become that they, the lawyers, can have jurors "de selected" for no stated reason at all. That, and allowing questionnaires such as the one issued in this case, to be given to the jurors. Under today's procedures, small towns would never have been able to try cases, because virtually everyone in town would know one or more of the principals in the case, and would have some pre-knowledge of the case.

Another egregious practice is not allowing jurors to apply their professional or particular expertise to arguments in the jury room. Thus a PhD physicist, or just any physics major or engineering major, could not use their expert knowledge to argue that the explanation of one side or the other's explanation of events would require a violation of the known laws of physics, (conservation of mass/energy, conservation of momentum, etc). He couldn't even point out where an "expert" witness was wrong about something like that. That's not justice, it's injustice disguised under the forms of law.

212 posted on 05/04/2006 4:12:54 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: All
No FReeper should make the mistake of assuming that because the conditions of imprisonment would be harsh to them, the conditions will necessarily be intolerable to him. He's already spent four years in solitary lockdown and was pleased to gloat when he received a life sentence. He's done four years, and he can just as easily do 50.

He's a homicidal sociopath. He's not a "people person." He is no great wit, bon vivant, or learned and accomplished man. He will not be haunted by the thought that there will be one to laugh with, or depressed by the realization that he will be be kept sequestered apart from the wider world, its beauty, and its opportunities.

If he is angry at all, it is because he will likely never have a chance to commit the mass murders of Americans including the jurors who spared his life.

213 posted on 05/04/2006 4:13:58 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about Darwinism.)
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To: All
The following is a list of former and current inmates at Supermax, Florence CO. Notice the large population of Islamic terrorists. Moussaoui will be among freinds. Note also that it appears that some prisoners have been killed in at Florence. However, none of the dead is an Islamic terrorist:

- Omar Abdel-Rahman - leader of the New York City landmark bomb plot

- Mahmud Abouhalima - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

- Ahmad Mohammed Ajaj - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing

- Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-'Owhali - involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings

- Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad - helped to finance al-Qaeda and Hamas

- Mirssa Araiza-Reyes - drug smuggler and undocumented alien; killed inmate Frank Melendez

- Nidal Ayyad - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing

- Tyler Davis Bingham - Aryan Brotherhood member

- Maynard Campell - a 55 year old white separatist with ties to militia groups; was stabbed to death.

- Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso - Lucchese Crime Family figure and killer of at least 35 people

- Ibrahim Elgabrowny - involved in the New York City landmark bomb plot

- Wadih El Hage - involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings

- Joey Estrella - convicted bank robber, killed in ADX Florence.

- Luis Felipe (a.k.a. King Blood) - Latin Kings gang leader

- Ronald Griesacker- Fraudster, passed $2 million in worthless checks. Released in 2002.

- Matthew F. Hale - White supremacist, (unsuccessfully) solicited the murder of federal judge Joan Lefkow

- Rodney Hambrick - serving a 68-year sentence on bomb charges

- Clement Rodney Hampton-Ell (a.k.a. Dr. Rashid) - involved in the New York City landmark bomb plot

- Robert Haney - bank robber

- Robert Hanssen- a former FBI agent serving life for spying for the U.S.S.R. for two decades

- Charles Harrelson - Mobster, father of actor Woody Harrelson

- Larry Hoover - Gangster Disciples gang leader

- Eyad Ismoil - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing

- Anthony Jones - Multiple murderer

- Theodore Kaczynski - The Unabomber

- Yu Kikumura - member of the Japanese Red Army

- David Lane - Neo-Nazi leader, racketeering, conspiracy and violating the civil rights of radio talk show host Alan Berg

- Joseph Leissler - robber, murderer

- Raymond Luc Levasseur - American domestic bomber

- Tom Manning - Killed a New Jersey state trooper.

- Joseph Bryant McGee - bank robber

- Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001), executed for Oklahoma City bombing

- Frank Melendez - a cocaine dealer from California killed in ADX Florence by Mirssa Araiza-Reyes.

- Barry Byron Mill - Aryan Brotherhood member

- Khalfan Khamis Mohamed - involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings
- Dandeny Munoz-Mosquera - chief assassin for Pablo Escobar, responsible for the bombing of Avianca Flight 203

- Zacarias Moussaoui - Convicted for the September 11, 2001 attacks and sentenced to 6 life terms without parole in ADX Florence [1]

- Abdul Hakim Murad - involved in Operation Bojinka

- Terry Nichols - involved in the Oklahoma City bombing

- El Sayyid Nosair - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing

- Raymond Oechsle - was incarcerated with Casso from 2001 to 2002 at ADX.
- Richard Reid - The "Shoe Bomber"
- Ahmed Ressam - serving 23 years for attempting to blow up Los Angeles International Airport
- Omar Mohammed Rezaq - Hijacked an Air Egypt flight in Greece in 1985.

- Oscar Rivera - leader of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, a Puerto Rican terrorist group, for bombing 28 targets in the Chicago area. Received an additional 15-year sentence for an escape attempt (from another prison).

- Eric Robert Rudolph - Olympic Park Bomber

- Mohammed A. Salameh - involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing

Thomas Silverstein -- Bank robber and murderer; killed guard Merle Clutts in another facility.

- Mutulu Shakur- an acupuncturist turned self-professed freedom fighter for the group Republic of New Afrika, sentenced to 60 years for bank robbery, conspiracy and murder (during the robbery, a policeman and two guards were killed.) Stepfather of late rapper Tupac Shakur, brother of Assata Shakur

- Douglas Taylor - Leader of the 88 Skinheads

- Saxon Taylor - Skinhead leader

- Manuel Torrez - 64 year old inmate killed at the hands of other inmates, the first in Supermax history.[2][3]

- Earnest James Ujaama - tried to develop an al-Qaeda camp in Oregon

- David Vargas - Convicted Of - Drugs & Voluntary Manslaughter.

- Danny Weeks - kidnapper

- Ramzi Ahmed Yousef - terrorist, involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and Operation Bojinka

214 posted on 05/04/2006 4:38:08 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about Darwinism.)
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To: lugsoul
The only terrorist who is not a terrorist is a dead terrorist and some of them, are booby trapped.
215 posted on 05/04/2006 6:04:33 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Those waiting to legally immigrate, weren't invited to the illegal alien Mayday riot.Why ?)
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To: LM_Guy
You pick the service you want and it is only piped in via a speaker in your cell !!

Mistakes can be made!!

216 posted on 05/04/2006 6:47:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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