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BBC ^ | 5/3/06 | Daniel Sokol

Posted on 05/03/2006 6:36:16 AM PDT by charming_harmonica

Suppose you could save five lives by taking one - what would be the correct thing to do? Such ethical dilemmas provide classic "experiments" for philosophers. Here the Magazine presents four such quandaries and asks readers to vote on what they think is right.

[Magazine note: apologies but we have had a technical hitch with the votes. We've replaced the vote modules, and will add those already cast to the totals.]

Like scientists, philosophers use experiments to test their theories. Unlike scientists, their experiments do not require sophisticated laboratories, white-robed technicians or even rodents. They occur in the mind, and start with 'What if...'.

These "thought experiments" help philosophers clarify their understanding of certain concepts and intuitions. In the field of ethics, thought experimenters typically present a dilemma, examine the most popular "intuitive" response and then show the implications for real-world issues.

But such experiments are rarely tested on large numbers of people. So to reach a larger group, here are four typical experiments. Readers are invited to vote on how they think they would act in each case.

Here is a well-known example:

1. THOMSON'S VIOLINIST

One day, you wake up in hospital. In the nearby bed lies a world famous violinist who is connected to you with various tubes and machines.

To your horror, you discover that you have been kidnapped by the Music Appreciation Society. Aware of the maestro's impending death, they hooked you up to the violinist.

If you stay in the hospital bed, connected to the violinist, he will be totally cured in nine months. You are unlikely to suffer harm. No one else can save him. Do you have an obligation to stay connected?

The creator of the experiment, Judith Thomson, thinks the answer is "no". It would be generous if you did, she claims, but there is no obligation to stay, even if that means the violinist will die.

So how is this bizarre scenario related to the real world? Thomson used the experiment to show that a pregnant woman need not go to full term with her baby, as long as she had taken reasonable steps to avoid getting pregnant. It is thus a "pro-choice" argument.

The violinist represents the baby, and you - in the hospital bed - play the role of the mother. If you think unhooking yourself from the violinist is acceptable, but aborting an unwanted foetus is not, what are the moral differences between the two cases? In both situations, you could save a person by bearing a great burden for nine months.

One major flaw with thought experiments, especially in ethics, is that they are rarely tested on people. The sample size is minuscule. The philosopher will simply assume that most people think that one option is right (or wrong).

Philippa Foot, a renowned British philosopher, believed that if a doctor, about to save a patient's life with a large dose of a scarce drug, was suddenly interrupted by the arrival of five patients each in need of one fifth of the drug (without which death would be certain), then the doctor should give it to the five. It is, after all, better to let one person die than five.

Elizabeth Anscombe, another prominent philosopher, disagreed: "There seems to me nothing wrong with giving the single patient the massive dose and letting the others die". As these assumptions about people's intuition are central to the arguments of many philosophers, and as these assumptions can be tested, why not do so?

2. THE RUNAWAY TROLLEY CAR

One of the most famous thought experiments in ethics is "the runaway trolley". It aims to clarify how we should distinguish right from wrong.

Here is the scenario with two well-known variations.

A runaway trolley car is hurtling down a track. In its path are five people who will definitely be killed unless you, a bystander, flip a switch which will divert it on to another track, where it will kill one person. Should you flip the switch?

3. THE FAT MAN AND THE TROLLEY CAR

The runaway trolley car is hurtling down a track where it will kill five people. You are standing on a bridge above the track and, aware of the imminent disaster, you decide to jump on the track to block the trolley car. Although you will die, the five people will be saved.

Just before your leap, you realise that you are too light to stop the trolley. Next to you, a fat man is standing on the very edge of the bridge. He would certainly block the trolley, although he would undoubtedly die from the impact. A small nudge and he would fall right onto the track below. No one would ever know. Should you push him?

Philippa Foot would say that everyone ("without hesitation") would choose to flip the switch in the first trolley case, but that most of us would be appalled at the idea of pushing the fat man.

The philosophical puzzle is this: Why is it acceptable to sacrifice the one person in The Runaway Trolley Car but not in The Fat Man case? Can it ever be morally acceptable to kill an innocent person if that is the only way to save many? Should some actions - such as deliberately killing innocent people against their wishes - never be done? The last thought experiment explores this idea:

4. THE CAVE EXPLORERS

An enormous rock falls and blocks the exit of a cave you and five other tourists have been exploring. Fortunately, you spot a hole elsewhere and decide to let "Big Jack" out first. But Big Jack, a man of generous proportions, gets stuck in the hole. He cannot be moved and there is no other way out.

The high tide is rising and, unless you get out soon, everyone but Big Jack (whose head is sticking out of the cave) will inevitably drown. Searching through your backpack, you find a stick of dynamite. It will not move the rock, but will certainly blast Big Jack out of the hole. Big Jack, anticipating your thoughts, pleads for his life. He does not want to die, but neither do you and your four companions. Should you blast Big Jack out?

If the roles were reversed, what would you advise your trapped companions to do?

Thought experiments, although abstract, possibly implausible and open to different interpretations, can have important repercussions on the way we think and act as individuals. They raise thorny questions about morality in medicine, war, politics and indeed in everyday life.

Is there a difference between killing someone and letting them die? Are consequences all that matter, or are there some things we should never do, whatever the outcome?

By pointing out inconsistencies in our thinking, or simply encouraging us to reflect on issues we usually ignore, they can sharpen our intellect and enrich our moral lives. They also make for great conversation topics at the dinner table or at the pub. But be warned: you may lose friends as a result. And stay away from caves and bridges.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bioethics
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A disturbing number of people voted to blast the guy out of the cave
1 posted on 05/03/2006 6:36:17 AM PDT by charming_harmonica
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To: charming_harmonica

Easy, ask them who they voted for. If they answer wrong then shove/blast em.


2 posted on 05/03/2006 6:39:29 AM PDT by noobiangod
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To: charming_harmonica

These arguments are moot. The scenarios will never happen and since we're dealing in imagination, you can just imagine that at the last moment something will happen to enable everyone to be saved.


3 posted on 05/03/2006 6:41:07 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT!)
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To: charming_harmonica

I abhor violins.


4 posted on 05/03/2006 6:42:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: charming_harmonica
A disturbing number of people voted to blast the guy out of the cave

What else could you do? I'd at least use an Adkins Approved dynamite stick...

You can tell a lot about a person by asking them about the Unsinkable Molly Brown of Titanic fame. If they see her as a hero, they are not all that bright.

And on a funny note...we were given questions like these...in grade school. Twisted.
5 posted on 05/03/2006 6:42:48 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: charming_harmonica
I'd say send the fat guy last so the rest would not be stuck in the cave in the first place.

Same with the tracks, keep people off them and you don't have a problem.

It is about choices before the scenario that is most importation.

These are like Zero's theory while true it has no application to reality.
6 posted on 05/03/2006 6:43:53 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: charming_harmonica

Seems to me these are inane hypotheticals........ Thanks for posting it, tho. I'll check back later to see the comments.


7 posted on 05/03/2006 6:44:25 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (God bless Jared Linskens and his family.)
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To: charming_harmonica

I wouldn't be stupid enough to let Jack go through the hole in the first place. I'd use the dynamite to open the hole wider first, then have everyone get out.

Kobiyashi Maru.


8 posted on 05/03/2006 6:44:25 AM PDT by bordergal
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To: charming_harmonica
So how is this bizarre scenario related to the real world? Thomson used the experiment to show that a pregnant woman need not go to full term with her baby

I believe lawyers advise people not to answer any hypotheticals.

In my experience, the guy with the hypothetical question ALWAYS is trying to steer the listener somewhere the listener doesn't want to go, and the questioner is basically trying to trick them.

I hate hypotheticals. They are a tool of evil.

9 posted on 05/03/2006 6:44:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Jemian

they may be moot, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't think about them. Being male I'll never have an abortion, does that mean I shouldn't think about it?

(alright, shaky parallel, but still...)


10 posted on 05/03/2006 6:44:49 AM PDT by charming_harmonica
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To: ClearCase_guy
I hate hypotheticals. They are a tool of evil. Just imagine a world with no hypotheticals
11 posted on 05/03/2006 6:47:00 AM PDT by charming_harmonica
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To: bordergal
I'd use the dynamite to open the hole wider first, then have everyone get out. Ding! That wasn't an option, though. They assume you're an idiot
12 posted on 05/03/2006 6:47:30 AM PDT by charming_harmonica
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To: charming_harmonica

Someone has too much time on their hands.


13 posted on 05/03/2006 6:47:50 AM PDT by toddlintown
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To: charming_harmonica

these scenarios are crafted to lead one down the graden path. in the first, there is nothing to suggest that you can demand compensation (the comparisoon to abortion is specious and not really true), the streetcar one doesn't allow the option of warning the potential victims, or throwing an object into the path, and the cavein story doesn't address the possibility of using a lever to pry the fat man out, nor the possibility that you foresaw the guy getting stuck, and getting the others out first. Neother does it allow for the possibility of using teh dynamite to blast a hole in another part of the cave, thus freeing the trapped.

these sort of "ethical tests" are designed to lead the reader down the garden path, and to make wrong right (killing one to save many). the word garbage comes to mind.


14 posted on 05/03/2006 6:50:32 AM PDT by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: charming_harmonica

The violinist scenario is not an analogy to pregnancy, getting pregnant is not like getting kidnapped, you make several deliberate choices to get to that point.


15 posted on 05/03/2006 6:51:33 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: charming_harmonica
The violinist represents the baby, and you - in the hospital bed - play the role of the mother. If you think unhooking yourself from the violinist is acceptable, but aborting an unwanted foetus is not, what are the moral differences between the two cases? In both situations, you could save a person by bearing a great burden for nine months.

When weak minded people become psychologists or engage in philosophical reflection, this is the type of bologna they come up with: simple scenarios that appear the same but have undercurrents and overtones which make them completely different situations.

 

16 posted on 05/03/2006 6:53:21 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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To: camle

i have one for you...

a guy in a cave in afghanistan decided to fly planes into buildings killing thousands..he promises more

should you
a. go get him dead or alive
b. wimp out and moan about how rough it will be. watch crap films by an overpaid fat git and give him an oscar, talk about his rights, and support yout enemy

it is amazing how many people to me pick option b


17 posted on 05/03/2006 6:57:24 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: charming_harmonica

These are actually easy questions if you acknowledge that all have gifts given them by God and that no person has any more right to life/death than any other.


18 posted on 05/03/2006 6:58:58 AM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (Mr. President and Representatives, do your duty to uphold our laws or you are all gone.)
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To: charming_harmonica
Take the Taoist approach when asked such a question: tell the interviewer that you render no judgment upon whether it is better for five to die or for one to die - that you accept the world as it is and would take no action whatsoever in any of the given examples.

Then watch their heads explode. ;)

19 posted on 05/03/2006 7:01:19 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: cripplecreek
Good morning.
"I abhor violins."

I love dynamite.

Michal Frazier
20 posted on 05/03/2006 7:09:14 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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