Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog
New York, N.Y. – In her new memoir, NOW IT'S MY TURN(Simon & Schuster/Threshold Editions, 2006), Mary Cheney writes that when she told her parents she was gay, the first words out of her father’s mouth “were exactly the ones that I wanted to hear: ‘You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.’”
VANITY FAIR editor Todd Purdum reports that Mary Cheney tells her story in a voice very much like her father’s, and that she came out to her parents when she was a junior in high school, on a day when, after breaking up with her first girlfriend, she skipped school, ran a red light, and crashed the family car. Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.
When Purdum asks the vice president whether he thinks gay people are born that way, Cheney scrunches up his mouth, fixes him with a look that says “Nice try,” then says: “I’m not going to get into that. Those are deeply personal questions. You can ask.”
Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father “has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French.” She also says that one common reaction from people who have read the manuscript of her book is “‘Wow, you guys really have this close-knit, loving family,’ and it always strikes me as ‘Yeah, of course we do.’ It was very surprising to me that people would think we didn’t.”
When Purdum asks Cheney if he is fatalistic about his heart disease, Cheney says, “I am. I don’t even think about it most of the time. You do those things a prudent man would do, and I live with it.” Asked what he would have for breakfast at Nora’s Fish Creek Inn, his favorite pre-fishing spot in Wilson, Wyoming, Cheney responds without missing a beat: “I’d probably have two eggs over easy, sausage and hash browns,” then hastens to add that that is not his normal breakfast. “The day I go fishing, I get off my diet,” he says.” At a roundtable lunch with reporters a couple of years ago, two who were present tell Purdum that Cheney cut his buffalo steak in bite-size pieces the moment it arrived, then proceeded to salt each side of each piece.
Cheney tells Purdum that he has not changed over the years, but perhaps many of his contemporaries think he has “because of my associations over the years, or because I came across as a reasonable guy, people have one view of me that was not necessarily an accurate reflection of my philosophy or my view of the world.”
Purdum asks Cheney if, during his “darkest night,” he has even “a little doubt” about the administration’s course. “No,” he tells Purdum. “I think we’ve done what needed to be done.” Of the debate over whether or not the administration hyped the pre-war intelligence, Cheney says, “In the end, you can argue about the quality of the intelligence and so forth, but ... I look at that whole spectrum of possibilities and options, and I think we did the right thing.”
Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne, insisting, “I think we have created a system that works for this president and for me, in terms of my ability to be able to contribute and participate in the process.” When Purdum says that the cartoon characterization of him must not be accurate, Cheney says, “My image might be better out there, this caricature you talk about might be avoided, if I spent more time as a public figure trying to improve my image, but that’s not why I’m here.”
Purdum reports that Cheney travels with a chemical-biological suit at all times. When he gave his friend Robin West and his twin children a ride to the White House a couple of years ago, West commented on the fact that Cheney’s motorcade varied its daily path. “And he said, ‘Yeah, we take different routes so that “The Jackal” can’t get me,’” West tells Purdum. “And then there was this big duffel bag in the middle of the backseat, and I said, ‘What’s that? It’s not very roomy in here.’ And [Cheney] said, ‘No, because it’s a chemical-biological suit,’ and he looked at it and said, ‘Robin, there’s only one. You lose.’”
Purdum talks with former New York Times reporter and former executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer, James Naughton, who asks of Cheney: “Does he acknowledge that he is not as pleasant as he used to be?” Naughton knew Cheney as a fellow prankster during the 1976 campaign, and all but sighs in search of an explanation as to why he is so different now. “I guess I would like to believe,” he says, “without any evidence to support it, that coming very close to death has somehow compelled him to act as though he only has so much breath and so much life, that he’s only got so much time to accomplish what he has to do. But the public figure is nothing like the private one that I remember.”
Gerald Ford tells Purdum: “He may have changed a bit, but that was required for the change of circumstances.” Ford, who will turn 93 in July, adds, “Times change, and people change as a result of that.”
“If you’re looking for a change from one point to another, being vice president is sui generis,” Lynne Cheney tells Purdum. “It’s not quite like any other job.”
The June issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York and L.A. on May 3 and nationally on May 9.
God equated man to God.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
The same is given in God's own words, with reference to David's. John 10:31
Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'[Psalm 82:6]? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.
He came here to teach. What what learns of Him is the basis with which one must judge. Those folks with the stones had to make a judgement decision there. They were stumped, because they never understood Gen 1:27. Sofar no one has posted a quote from God on the matter of salvation/damnation. It requires a judgement call(s) from all men.
Heh heh... I was torn between Pullman, Craig Kilborn and Wil Wheaton. But I think I made the right choice.
Based on this statement, I am really really really really interested in your explanation of John 3:16, 17, 18 (and while you're at it, toss in 19 and 20 too...)
(Hint: Jesus said what He meant and meant what He said...)
The chins are dead on...
You should have gone with Ed Norton.
It's called "witnessing" and explaining the Word to them.
Who whacked anyone with the Bible? Most arguing on this thread are those who always do. I stay away from religion threads because of the hatred for Christians. It will be years before I get into another debate.
Terry's embarrassment had nothing to do with any invasion of privacy concerns, but the embarrasment of having a homosexual son who came out. He wrote an opinion piece entitled "My Son, the Homosexual". Randall Terry had always campaigned against homosexuals, and could not take this public knowledge of a homosexual in his very own family. Real love, huh?
I like Bill Pullman. He's had a really interesting, under-rated career.
I wouldn't deny that--every human is incorrigible in sin... however scripture is clear we can repent of sin...even if it keeps following us around to the day we die. My only goodness and only hope is in my union with Jesus Christ, and His sinless life, and death, on my behalf.
As someone mentioned above what we call today an out of the closet "homosexual" is someone who totally identifies themselves by a particular sexual sin. It would be like someone going around saying "I am a proud Adulterer!"
The whole Christian life is one of repentence. As Luther put it in the 1st of his 95 Theses "When our Lord and Savior said 'Repent' He meant the entire life of a Christian is to be one of repentence."
I don't have trouble with people admitting they struggle with homosexual temptation...as I struggle with hetrosexual temptation, when however they say, its not a sin, not a perversion....then, I do have trouble with that. Repentence, and the forgiveness and healing God offers, starts with admitting one is wrong. Without that a person is lost--and they cannot accept God's forgiveness, as their hands are full clutching to their own sin.(another example from Luther, I believe)
Of course I don't really know if VP Chaney is anything but a cultural Christian...so perhaps this whole discussion is moot. I do think it is a sad indightment on where we are as a culture, that when parents JUST accept kids' sins (as the example above...letting a son sleep with his girlfriend in your house) they are considered enlightened, loving, kind and tolerant. It's not loving letting loved ones slip into hell.
Oh, that's rich...coming from you.
Note, however, that he said nothing about us always being able to understand what he meant.
And how do you distinguish between that type, and those such as fellow claiming he has no authority BUT from Scripture?
I'm sorry, but you seem to be reasoning more from petulance than substance. You should be able to meet such people on their own ground, just like Jesus did.
Personally, I believe they ARE using rational thought, it's just rational thought that does not accept your flexibility of definition in the same way you would not accept such flexibility with an apologist for female "priests."
In a public discussion, the person talking about sex on a Saturday night is the norm. The person talking about church on Sunday morning is a freak. The Christians in this country that are trying to return it to a more moral path are demonized, while the others are held up to the status of 'victims' of society. It's true - we are weak as far as speaking out. However, some of us that believe there is a kinder way of getting that truth out, are also demonized. Look at some of the responses I've had on this thread. Either I act out my beliefs as they think I should, or I'm tagged a non-believer and rejectionist of Christianity. Sometimes I'm not proud to be thought of as part of that group of 'Christians'. Maybe that's what has scared some people into not speaking out.
I don't disagree with what you say.
You project alot.
The Gay Agenda has no effect on me or my personal life. I enjoy sex with women and one woman in particular(my wife). If you don't like people having sex with the same gender, then don't do it! Simple as that.
This whole discussion may be moot. We don't even know what her girlfriend looks like...
(it's a joke, a joke)
AMEN.
I didn't mean to imply that you had whacked anyone - and it was just my attempt to be humorous. Point was, that we have to make sure they understand the Bible, not just quote it to them and hope they 'get it'.
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