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I disagree with him on two points:

I don't believe in global warming.

I think petrodiesel, then a transition to biodiesel, is the answer.

Regards, Ivan

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1 posted on 04/30/2006 12:55:26 AM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 04/30/2006 12:55:48 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

"To which British motorists can only reply: Diddums."

And Americans can, in turn, reply:

Well... don't want to get banned, so let's stop there.


3 posted on 04/30/2006 1:20:56 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: MadIvan
The SUV is in fact a kind of hybrid - part vehicle, part living room.

I don't care who you are - that's funny!

4 posted on 04/30/2006 1:58:18 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Rachel Corrie's not dead - she's taking a CAT nap.)
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To: MadIvan

Actually ethanol my be an answer, but in fuel cells. Already have them in small ones, but it will be a while before they are scaled up.

Another is Nuclear power. Solar panels. All good, but the problem with all of them is it just reduces demand for oil and therefor, reduces price so it is more affordable and cheaper than the alternatives.

So do we do as the Brits and increase taxes on it to reduce demand? That would put more money in the US pocket and less in Iran's and SA.


6 posted on 04/30/2006 2:21:41 AM PDT by KeyWest (Help stamp out taglines!)
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To: MadIvan; All
I have been covering, ( Or, as Seamole calls it...-backhoe's pseudoblog--... ) pseudo-blogging, this issue for years, so allow me to drop out of Lurk & Link mode for a rare bit of commentary-- we all need to get serious about our dependency on foreign sources of energy, and use our own resources.

Our consumer-based economy is driven by and dependent upon readily-available, reliable energy-- choke that off, and we'll all be back to using one rotary dial phone in the dining room, watching one TV in the living room, and driving one car per family-- probably a Hudson Hornet or a Nash Metropolitan...

We need to

1) end the nonsensical ban on offshore drilling off California and Florida--read & weep:
Castro Plans to Drill 45 Miles from US Shores, But We Can't

2) build a lot of next-generation nuclear power plants, not just for electricity, but for any process requiring heat, power, or steam.
And if we replaced our existing nuclear plants with
this one there would be significant benefits.

3) end Jimmy Carter's idiotic ban on recycling nuclear waste, and reprocess the stuff rather than fighting over where to bury it. Europe has done this for decades.-- what to do with spent nuclear fuel? Answer here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468321/posts?page=50#50 hattip:  Mike (former Navy Nuclear Engineer)

4) use the 300-500 years worth of coal we have on our own land, using the new clean-coal technology.
-Clean Coal Centre--

5) and finally, there's nothing wrong with conservation, we should all practice it- but you can't conserve your way out of a shortage. Nor is there anything wrong with "alternative" energy sources- except they don't supply the vast ( not to mention readily-available ) amounts of power we need at a price competitive to more conventional sources. Then again, there is this to ponder:
Energy From the Gulf Stream
http://www.energy.gatech.edu/presentations/mhoover.pdf

We do need to get serious about this before we get strangled by a bunch of petty thieves and dictators who don't like us much.

My tongue-in-cheek collection of energy-related links:

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:

And kindly note, and note well-- the first reply to this post ( when gas was $1.45 a gallon ) was derisive... so, who's laughing now?




8 posted on 04/30/2006 2:42:16 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Driving down the M40 on Friday, I passed petrol stations selling regular unleaded at 97.9 pence per litre. That works out at $6.62 a gallon.

What is he using? British math? There are less than 4 litres per gallon. That means that "petrol, my dear diddums" is less than $4/gallon.

11 posted on 04/30/2006 3:48:16 AM PDT by raybbr
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If the oil companies are making approx. 19 cents a gallon (and they made billions) and the government is making almost 50 cents a gallon in taxes...
Why aren't Americans upset with the insane profits that the government is making.
I guess I just don't understand. The angst seems misdirected.
12 posted on 04/30/2006 3:51:20 AM PDT by philman_36
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While booze and hummers have a long history of association, they can be deadly on the highway.

ANWR (Alaska) was purchased for its oil -- time we followed through on the idea.

16 posted on 04/30/2006 4:01:00 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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The price of fuel is high precisely because of "supply and demand economics", as Lord Browne knows only too well. Global demand for oil has risen by around 40 per cent in the past 20 years.

Would an economic model suggest that, since the price has increased sixfold in the last eight years, the supply should have declined sixfold during the same period? I don't buy the argument that global demand is driving prices up without a significant reduction in supply......

17 posted on 04/30/2006 4:04:21 AM PDT by eeriegeno
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The evidence that global temperatures are rising as a result is incontrovertible.

The author cites that the historic levels of CO2 have been 180 to 280 PPM, notes that they are currently 380 PPM, and points to that as incontrovertible proof. Sure lets me know why he's a journalist and not a scientist.

A couple of simple points, the first being the most obvious:

Correlation is not causation.

Nobody's proved that there IS a variation in the temperatures yet to my satisfaction.

And you're seeing more and more climate scientists breaking ranks with the global warming theory.

19 posted on 04/30/2006 5:08:10 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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Environmentalists decry the destruction of the rainforests, yet they advocate wholescale destruction of the rainforests in Brazil so sugar cane can be planted to supply ethanol for the world.


24 posted on 04/30/2006 5:53:45 AM PDT by randita
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To: MadIvan; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Everyone knows supply and demand is a myth -- not a law -- designed by capitalist and their political lapdogs to oppress the workers.

[rimshot!]

I disagree that petroleum and other hydrocarbons are "fossil fuels".

Over 40 per cent of new vehicles sold in Europe are diesel.


26 posted on 04/30/2006 6:06:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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That works out at $6.62 a gallon.

And that works out to about $3.50 per gallon you Brits are paying for your failed Socialist system!

28 posted on 04/30/2006 6:41:57 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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WAKE UP AMERICA! WE ARE A LAND OF PLENTY ( WITH PLENTY OF OIL) AND OUR GOVERNMENT IS TAKING US DOWN THE EUROPEAN PATH. WE NEED NEW REFINERIES NOW AND ENOUGH OF THIS ONE WORLD BS!
33 posted on 04/30/2006 8:12:20 AM PDT by jetson (throne)
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Most Americans don't buy oil as traded on the commodity exchanges. They buy some refined oil products. Eventually we will see $3 gasoline as essentially free, and that day could be soon or it could be in ten years, somewhere in there. Oil is one of the great bargains on earth. Electricity is another. Water and air will also eventually be seen as bargains on earth, especially if we ever get to the moon to stay, and to Mars.


35 posted on 04/30/2006 8:46:17 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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I disagree with him on two points:

I'll add a third: You don't need to drive a gas hog to be comfy.

36 posted on 04/30/2006 8:48:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Sugar cane does not grow everywhere. When there is an economically viable cellulose-to sugar-to alcohol conversion [so that sawdust, grasses, wood shavings and the like could be used as a feed], then ethanol could become the answer. Imagine a paper shredder-cum-still at the office. You shred a report from last year, the contraption hums and wheezes - and there is a pint of vodka coming out. Everyone happy.
39 posted on 04/30/2006 9:13:34 AM PDT by GSlob
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I think petrodiesel, then a transition to biodiesel, is the answer.

I may have a conflict of interest here (I am managing editor of an agricultural trade magazine these days) but I agree. I've seen figures that indicate that we could not convert to ethanol or any significant mix of ethanol even if we converteds all our arable land to corn. On the other hand, you can make diesel out of almost anything that has plenty of carbon. Here's a post from a blog I contribute to occasionally:

Alternatve energy news from NRO Online, just for a chuckle

RENEWABLE ENERGY BREAKTHROUGH! [Cosmo ]

Important news! Don't let the mainstream media censor it:

 

A German inventor says he's found a way to make cheap diesel fuel out of dead cats.

Dr Christian Koch, 55, from Kleinhartmannsdorf, said his method uses old tyres, weeds and animal cadavers.

They are heated up to 300 Celsius to filter out hydrocarbon which is then turned into diesel by a catalytic converter.

He said the resulting "high quality bio-diesel" costs just 15 pence per litre.

Koch said the cadaver of a fully grown cat can produce 2.5 litres of fuel - meaning around 20 cats are needed for a full tank.

He said: "I tank my car with my own diesel mixture and have driven it for 105,000 miles without any problems."

Annelise Krauss of the Dresden Animal Protection Association blasted Koch's new diesel though, saying: "This is as bad as experimenting on animals."

 

_________________________________________________________ Of course, Annalise Kraus shows just how dumb you have to be to be a hardcore animal rights activist. The moron apparently doesn't even know that dead things don't experience pain.
41 posted on 04/30/2006 9:29:14 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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I have an innate talent for solving several problems simultaneously. With all the drunk-driving laws, I do all my drinking at home, thus saving on gas.


47 posted on 04/30/2006 9:41:34 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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The reports I have read indicate that it requires far more energy to produce biodiesel than it produces, and far more than it requires to produce gasoline.

If you don't believe in global warming (as being caused by Man's activity) what's wrong with gasoline? With catalytic converters, exhaust is almost entirely CO2 and H20.
51 posted on 04/30/2006 9:52:30 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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