Posted on 04/28/2006 1:21:50 PM PDT by RobFromGa
Just saw United 93-- I thought it was excellent. It evolves in real-time and its cuts back and forth between the Air Traffic controllers, the Military room, and the plane.
It was somewhat shocking to watch the level of confusion in terms of what was going on, but when you see what information that they were dealing with, it makes sense.
The hijackers to me came across more as fanatical than evil, and they were not turban-wearing obvious characters, they were cleaned up and I ride on planes with people like them on every flight I take.
In the movie, they are carrying out the plans of others and are obsessive in their task. We are not fighting an enemy that is likely to be reasoned with.
There is one character that I'm glad they included- he has a European *maybe French* accent and he makes a number of comments along the lines of "If we do what they say, they'll spare our lives"-- typical appeasement mentality.
Thanks to this group of heroes, many thousands of lives may have been spared and we kept the Islamic nuts from claiming the Capitol or White House as a prize.
I give in 9.5/10!
scary
All I can say is wow. Every emotion of that day came back in full force. Very very powerful movie. Caught the utter confusion and terror of 9-11 perfectly in the control centers.
Loved the positive light oput on the military, and how it showed that some people get confused while others step up and take charge.
I thought the few curse words in there were used appropriately -- and as a 24 year AF member, I can assure everyone that the language in the AF Control Center was dead on target. When the NORAD controller yelled "F*** the FAA, I want those planes over Manhattan now" I almost stood up and cheered. LOL.
Anyway, excellent excellent excellent movie. The ending was absolute perfect. When thatscreen went blank the entire theater just sat there in silence.
This movie came out at the perfect time and is the reminder and wake up call this nation needs. I will even predict that the President and the War effort get a slight boost as more people see this movie.
Isn't it amazing what people are capable of when they've had more than enough and won't take any more? The part that breaks my heart is that the passengers were so close at succeeding, as unprepared as they were, in overcoming what a purpose-built set of systems were unable to stop. Ladies and gentlemen, as the Great One says, "You ARE capable of great things! More capable than you know!"
What upset me was that he tracked me thru the lot, chased me down. And I, being such a nice girl, would of course open my window for a complete stranger... what if he needed help? And it took me way too long to react. "Fight or flight" took too long to kick in. I learned that even the most innocent looking situation can get you hurt.
What my martial arts instructor kept emphasizing is that the purpose of martial arts training is to allow you to create the time and distance you need to get to your weapon. The function of the training is to ingrain a reflexive response to attack, so you can survive the first 3 seconds and have time to decide what to do then
To survive an attack, you must have
My husband and I just returned from seeing this. I thought it was a very well made film. I highly recommend it. The theater was pretty full. It was completely silent for several minutes when the movie ended. I tried to pick up some reactions/expressions from the other audience members as we were walking out. No one was talking.Not a word. If I had to guess, I'd say most were right back where they were on 9/11; shocked, saddened, sickened and pissed as hell.
It helps to plan things also. When a group of people who are on the flight act suspicious, watch them. I was on a flight about two years ago and noticed a group of Arabic looking people sitting together. All at once three of them stood up and got their carry on luggage down and each got out a large hard cover book. (The perfect place to hide things). Nothing came of it, but still these are things you look for. This mess we are in is going to last a very long time.
Rough men
There's a character trait that's decided by fate
Comes (sadly) to many, far too faint, far too late.
They won't face the aggressor, stand up to his ire
They have not the will to fight his fire with fire.
So they bend over backwards to see all sides as fair,
Till they're faced with dragon breath fire in their hair.
Like our brethren in France, who'd know better than we,
Yet seem never to learn, seem doomed never to see.
Yes, it seems there are some who're determined by fate,
To possess not the courage to step up to the plate,
Who shrink from all threat because nothing's worth war.
But how can they know lest they've been there before?
Thank God some have courage, the will, yes, the grace,
To stand for the shirkers, stand strong in their place.
Thank God we have stalwarts who'll stand for us all,
Who will rise to the challenge at their nation's call.
The faint-hearted, who fear, whose reaction is flight,
Have no comprehension of those who will fight.
To hide their own trepidation they attempt to demean
The rough men, who defend them, as barbaric, obscene.
Yet these rough men stand ready, hard weapons to hand,
To put placaters behind them, draw a line in the sand,
To preserve for the peaceniks what they won't defend,
So their own unearned freedom won't perish, won't end.
To appeasers, rough men are coarse government tools.
To rough men, appeasers are dumb delusional fools.
Russ Vaughn
2d Bn, 327th Parachute Infantry Regiment
101st Airborne Division
Vietnam 65-66
Almost sounds like it could have been a practice run.
It also accomplishes some secondary purpose: the leader is most likely very politically reliable. The henchment, being unable to communicate, will be isolated from the society, unlikely to be able to communicate anything to the wrong person, and unlikely to wander off on their own
This is so disingenuous, because the whole effort to put fighters in the air was to shoot these poor people out of the sky. False blame, terrible lies in service of hate. Twisting this into being a charge against the Americans who suffered. I read one review characterizing the whole event not as heroism, but a vain attempt at self preservation. This is when I started seeing stars.
I'll be seeing it tomorrow, so I'm bookmarking to post my comments.
Even Jay Stone, a Canadian movie reviewer (has to be a lefty!), gave it five stars, which is highly unusual for him.
I digress
While it is historically accurate and brutally honest it is also politically neutral.
My kids are too young (7 and 10) but I will DEFINITELY be buying this and watching it with them when they are ready. Just as I've already done with the Passion of the Christ (bought it intending to watch it with my kids later).
I was it yesterday.
Good films mold and jolt our emotions,; Flight 93 does not play with our emotions, it channels them like the 40 foot wide spillway tunnels on Hoover Dam during spring runoff. The pressure is so intense the only thing that allows you to sit though it is the known outcome.
Nobody moved. Even when the credits were rolling. I was crying, my mother was crying, my father was crying. My daughter had hidden her eyes for the most intense parts, so she cried only a bit. There was a gentleman on my front right, who was crying, and I really do not think there was one person who was not touched by the enormous tragedy of the taking of those precious lives that day. Those innocent people on that flight were heroes, and I am so proud of them.
This movie also made me very proud of our troops who are making tremendous sacrifices every day to ensure that such bloodthirsty actions cannot occur here again.
The lingering sadness of this movie is because it was (I believe as close to) true (as possible). Certainly factual that all those lovely, brave sons, mothers, sisters, brothers, fathers, daughters died saving others and in a pretty hopeless attempt to save their own lives. Certainly factual that they died at the hands of a demonic, hateful, death-worshipping cult.
Good job FRiend.
:-)
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