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UNITED 93 FReeper Reviews
self | April 28, 2006 | RobFromGa

Posted on 04/28/2006 1:21:50 PM PDT by RobFromGa

Just saw United 93-- I thought it was excellent. It evolves in real-time and its cuts back and forth between the Air Traffic controllers, the Military room, and the plane.

It was somewhat shocking to watch the level of confusion in terms of what was going on, but when you see what information that they were dealing with, it makes sense.

The hijackers to me came across more as fanatical than evil, and they were not turban-wearing obvious characters, they were cleaned up and I ride on planes with people like them on every flight I take.

In the movie, they are carrying out the plans of others and are obsessive in their task. We are not fighting an enemy that is likely to be reasoned with.

There is one character that I'm glad they included- he has a European *maybe French* accent and he makes a number of comments along the lines of "If we do what they say, they'll spare our lives"-- typical appeasement mentality.

Thanks to this group of heroes, many thousands of lives may have been spared and we kept the Islamic nuts from claiming the Capitol or White House as a prize.

I give in 9.5/10!


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To: AuteurEye
I have personally met people who proclaimed that American deserved what happened on 9/11, that the Jews were behind it all, that if we were not friends with Israel none of this would have happened, that if only we would respect their so called culture 9/11 never would have happened.
These people are my neighbors and I assure you similar neighbors exist for every posting member on Free Republic.
Are these idiots actually going to cheer the hijackers in the movie theater? No - of course not. They'd be beaten within an inch of their lives.
If you don't believe such people exist - take a look at a putrid little web site called democratic Underground. There are lots of ' wonderful ' postings about this movie. Your jaw will drop and the blood leave your face when you see some of the comments.
281 posted on 04/28/2006 10:45:01 PM PDT by warsaw44 (BUILD THE WALL)
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To: AuteurEye
I haven't seen Band of Brothers, but off all the characters, I seem to remember he looked familiar.

The point I was trying to get across..if some of the actors were Muslim...wonder what they were thinking about the whole film?

282 posted on 04/28/2006 10:46:18 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Remember 9/11...and the reason we are fighting.)
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To: warsaw44

Makes me sick to my stomach, it does. That mindset.


283 posted on 04/28/2006 10:47:18 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: warsaw44

I don't even want to go there, to that website. I know that I would be doing something that I would regret later...


284 posted on 04/28/2006 10:49:09 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Remember 9/11...and the reason we are fighting.)
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To: rlmorel
Off the subject here, but I currently ship educational materials to the Nimitz and Eisenhower...and to R. Reagan and to Enterprise LOL

Those Navy boys need to keep on learning while on the sea :)

285 posted on 04/28/2006 10:51:59 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Remember 9/11...and the reason we are fighting.)
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To: GulfWar1Vet

Neither do I but I saw Democratic Underground comments on the movie posted on this thread. It just makes me sick but then again I meet such freaks like this on a regular basis.


286 posted on 04/28/2006 10:52:06 PM PDT by warsaw44 (BUILD THE WALL)
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To: GulfWar1Vet

You got FReep mail in about 1 minute


287 posted on 04/28/2006 10:53:08 PM PDT by warsaw44 (BUILD THE WALL)
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To: warsaw44

Yes sir, I do agree there are people who have very ugly things to say in this country. However, it is naive to believe that one website completely encompasses and represents an opposing viewpoint. The Democratic Underground is a poorly run site with terrible moderation. FreeRepublic is not the sole bastion of conservative thought on the Internet, nor is DemocraticUnderground the sole voice of liberalism.

I went to the film with a Muslim who I roomed with freshman year and his eyes were pouring with tears like mine. Imagine how hard it was for him to attend this film in the theater in a red state (Texas), especially after several posters in this thread have made it clear in no uncertain terms that they felt almost driven to violence by the film.

Yes, there are people in this world who would cry such inflammatory things during a screening, but you know and I know they are few and far between. However, is yelling "kill all the muslims!" any better than someone saying something about our President?

The beauty of this film is that it allows you to realize your own feelings. It is an intelligent film, one that forces the viewer to draw their own conclusions. I simply believe that both liberals and conservatives can enjoy this movie, and have so up to this point.

The DemocraticUnderground is a fringe bunch of loons, and should not be viewed as the sole voice of an opposition. My grandfather, an old Democrat who fought in World War II, would agree with almost nothing said on that board.


288 posted on 04/28/2006 10:54:37 PM PDT by AuteurEye
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To: Oliver Optic

Just a personal opinion...

Let your children be children.

Those days are precious and will never be again.

There's plenty of time to be an adult to follow.


289 posted on 04/28/2006 11:01:30 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: AuteurEye

Well said. Welcome to FR.


290 posted on 04/28/2006 11:10:26 PM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: AuteurEye

The movie has not caused me to go do violence against anyone, but it has stirred up a lot of ideas on how to fight against an idealogy that is so against what Americans stand for. That's what made me so angry tonight...how a religion can mess up a person's head and go on a suicide mission...and for Allah or God?


291 posted on 04/28/2006 11:14:37 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Remember 9/11...and the reason we are fighting.)
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To: AuteurEye
Both would weaken the film, and I am glad Greengrass found no place for either in his telling.

When the screen went dark at the end there wasn't a sound in the theater. A fitting tribute.

292 posted on 04/28/2006 11:15:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: AuteurEye

Don't forget that the only verifiable info about anything that happened aboard [aside from the cockpit recordings] is what was cell phoned in; -- is there any indication that some one actually raised the "bomb parts" over his head and said that it is fake?


293 posted on 04/28/2006 11:19:32 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: AuteurEye

You made a wonderful post earlier and I wanted to commend you for it. I agree with everything you said and your summary and analysis was in alignment with why I felt the film was superior to what would have been the typical Hollywood approach to this event.

It is one of the best films I've ever seen and though I didn't sob or weep, my eyes did well up and I did clench my jaw and my fist and my lip quivered uncontrollably.

It's an emotionally exhausting movie and I think Greengrass took just the right approach. Perhaps a more cliched film would work for another event...


294 posted on 04/28/2006 11:24:21 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: tpaine

Movie not showing around here, unless I want to drive up to Columbus, that almost sounds worth it after reading your reviews.


295 posted on 04/28/2006 11:25:34 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak.)
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To: tpaine

You've brought up a very important point.

We don't know what happened beyond brief phone calls and cockpit voice recorders. However, it is the director's job to analyze the event to the best of his ability and create his own personal interpretation. This is not a documentary, this is a fictionalized image of what Greengrass believes happened on board that plane. Does he know for sure that someone raised the fake bomb above his head in triumph? No. Is it a reasonable reaction? Certainly. This is a piece of art, in the end. However, it is a sane and intelligent look into the events on board the plane. The fact that we feel it is an accurate portrayal speaks highly of the filmmaker himself, whom I now consider a master storyteller.

We are not looking for factual truth in this film, but emotional truth, which Greengrass has found. One reviewer astutely put it this way:

"In his neo-factualist films, Greengrass finds out as much as he can about the event he’s depicting and recreates as much of it as possible and then, having carefully built this structure of verisimilitude, gives his actors room to find their own reality for their characters. In the end the scenes in Bloody Sunday or United 93 may not be true in the very strictest sense of the word – those lines were not spoken, that exact action was not taken – but they are very true in the deeper, emotional sense of the word. Yes, the audience says, that was how it must have been.

It’s a world between documentary and narrative, and some people have gotten lost on their way there. I have had arguments with other journalists about the film where they’ll take the position of “No one could know what happened on that plane!” Which is true, but doesn’t really change the inherent emotional truth of what Greengrass is showing."


296 posted on 04/28/2006 11:27:40 PM PDT by AuteurEye
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To: RobFromGa

Will be seeing it this Saturday afternoon (4/29).


297 posted on 04/28/2006 11:29:10 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: RobFromGa

How in the hell does a movie like this get a "limited release". It is not even showing in Pickerington, Ohio (just outside of Columbus). Horrible.


298 posted on 04/28/2006 11:32:45 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The reason this film has "limited release" is because it is actually quite a low budget film. Part of the budget is devoted to making prints of the film and advertising. United 93 was made on a shoestring budget compared to Hollywood megablockbusters, approximately 15 million. That is why films like this summer's Superman Returns can be released into almost four thousand theaters opening weekend. The money was just not there for it to be released on such a level. That is the simple truth. Money. Any claims that the film is not being released because of political inclinations is absurd. Unless the theater owner is independent from chains like AMC or Cinemark, they have no control over what films will be placed in their theater.


299 posted on 04/28/2006 11:36:24 PM PDT by AuteurEye
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To: AuteurEye

ohhhh, GREAT...

I found a theater in the region carrying it. Regal Cinemas in Lancaster, Ohio.

I am going to the movies soon !


300 posted on 04/28/2006 11:41:02 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak.)
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