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UNITED 93 FReeper Reviews
self | April 28, 2006 | RobFromGa

Posted on 04/28/2006 1:21:50 PM PDT by RobFromGa

Just saw United 93-- I thought it was excellent. It evolves in real-time and its cuts back and forth between the Air Traffic controllers, the Military room, and the plane.

It was somewhat shocking to watch the level of confusion in terms of what was going on, but when you see what information that they were dealing with, it makes sense.

The hijackers to me came across more as fanatical than evil, and they were not turban-wearing obvious characters, they were cleaned up and I ride on planes with people like them on every flight I take.

In the movie, they are carrying out the plans of others and are obsessive in their task. We are not fighting an enemy that is likely to be reasoned with.

There is one character that I'm glad they included- he has a European *maybe French* accent and he makes a number of comments along the lines of "If we do what they say, they'll spare our lives"-- typical appeasement mentality.

Thanks to this group of heroes, many thousands of lives may have been spared and we kept the Islamic nuts from claiming the Capitol or White House as a prize.

I give in 9.5/10!


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To: RobFromGa

There's some 9/10 thinking going on at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave as well. All islam must be exterminated!


181 posted on 04/28/2006 7:33:11 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus
Another thought about the movie, it reminded me of Bill Maher's comments the week after the Sept attacks, where he infamously compared the bravery of American commanders with the bravery of the terrorists.

"We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly," Maher said on the Sept. 17 episode. "Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

After watching this movie, I think Bill Maher is even more of an jerk than I did at the time, these men are cowards through and through. And the people who defend us are risking their lives to do so.

Someone should ask Mr. Maher to clarify his remarks after watching U93.

182 posted on 04/28/2006 7:38:01 PM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Old Media gets more shrill, thrashing about like a dinosaur caught in the tar pits.)
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To: tpaine

You must act and remember who your true friends are.


183 posted on 04/28/2006 7:40:03 PM PDT by Fair Go
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To: RobFromGa
The surprising 'moral message' I got from the film is one regarding self defense. --- Over and over we see the passengers hesitate to attack the two hijackers who are defending the aisle leading to the flight deck.
The movie makes clear that they hesitated because they had no weapons.
-- And, - because they were accustomed to hearing the bureaucratic chant of 'take no action' -- 'offer no resistance' - to those who intend to kill you.

I think the passengers took action once they reached the threshold where they felt that death was inevitable if action wasn't taken.

I agree, they hesitated too long. - Partly due to a lack of weapons. -- A few knives might have made all the difference.

They had one chance to retake control and at the low altitude it was a slim chance-- but better to die taking your one chance than to die sitting in your seat.
The knowledge that they gained from the ground about the attacks on the WTC and Pentagon was the crucial factor that raised them from "9-10 thinking" and put them square on the front line of this War against Radical Islam, and God Bless them all for taking this action.

And its a pity they that even with that info, they took too long to act.

*September 10 thinking is when hijackers didn't turn planes into missiles, but used them to negotiate with hostages. It is also when we fail to take them seriously when they threaten us and to chalk their evil statements up to overheated rhetoric. The world is making some September 10 mistakes at present with Mr. I'm-on-a-jihad of Iran IMHO.

Mr. who? -- You lost me.

184 posted on 04/28/2006 7:43:38 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: RobFromGa
Why are we risking the lives of our country's youth? To give freedom to people who have no concept of what it is? To give freedom to people who, of their own free will, want only to submit? I'm sorry, but this is a huge and horrible waste. Not one boot should have hit the ground. Puddles of molten glass in the desert and anywhere else that islam florishes is the ONLY answer. I've only been at FR for 1 1/2 yrs, and have held my tongue on my thoughts on the WOT. Those days are over!
185 posted on 04/28/2006 7:45:52 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: maggief

I remember that day so well.

I was living with a friend of mine at the time. He IM'ed me when the first tower was hit. I ran to a south facing conference room and watched. People began gathering watching the smoke. We all saw the 2nd plane hit and explode. No one spoke for at least a minute. The movie captures that moment perfectly.

I went back to my office, I am a computer tech, and found woman waiting for my assistance with an MS Office problem...she had not heard. I told her it would have to wait. I called my then girlfriend (now wife) to tell her I was ok. They pulled TV into a conference room where we watched the towers fall.


I left my office after the 2nd tower fell with no way to get off Manhattan (bridges, tunnels, trains all closed). I walked down toward Penn Station. I got lunch in Al's Deli on 7th ave, they were giving things away.

I listened to the radio on my walkman where they were interviewing people who had gotten out of the towers. Firemen, office workers, maintainence people etc...I have never seen or heard so many grown men crying. Living through something like that forces your to deal with your own mortality, I supposed.

After a while I wandered back outside and saw the dust cloud over lower Manhattan. It was 50 stories high and reminded me of driving into a low lying area during a dense fog. It was impeneterable. People were in this stunned daze, it was surreal.

The mood brightened considerable when the F16's were flying overhead. We all figured it was ok at that point.

Eventually they reopened Penn. I was the first person on the first train out of Manhattan. I spent the whole ride looking backward at the cloud. I will never forget it.

Steve Dunleavy had a column in the next day's New York Post (a right leaning daily newspaper). It was titled "JUST KILL THE BASTARDS". I cut it out and put it up at the entrance to my office. I have never agreed with a written sentiment more.

Sorry for going on and on...the movie just brought me back to that place today.


186 posted on 04/28/2006 7:47:53 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: tpaine

You try to remember the President of Iran's name- I can't. Either Steyn or COulter came up with Imonajihad and it works for me.

I give the passengers more credit for their action than you do-- having never been in anything remotely like this, I find it very hard to second guess. I'm just glad they got the chance to act before they slammed into the Capitol or WH. Do we know for sure that the terrorists in the front didn't have hostages for example?


187 posted on 04/28/2006 7:48:33 PM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Old Media gets more shrill, thrashing about like a dinosaur caught in the tar pits.)
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To: Fair Go
Very true. -- To defeat zealots & fanatics, you must act.
-- I think that the movie makes the point that with a bit more luck, the passengers of flight 93 could have saved themselves.

You must act and remember who your true friends are.

How true. I try to remind zealots of that fact every day.

188 posted on 04/28/2006 7:50:44 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Personal Responsibility

I watched the towers fall from Center St. I had worked in and around those buildings as a field tech. for 18yrs. I knew people murdered that day. Dunleavy was right. Kill the Bastards!


189 posted on 04/28/2006 7:51:44 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Personal Responsibility

If nothing else, perhaps this movie will jog people's memories of what happened on that day (9-11-01)and restore America's resolve because hey, we are in a real war.


190 posted on 04/28/2006 7:51:45 PM PDT by no dems (Condi Rice will never pick cotton on the Democrats' plantation.)
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To: Oliver Optic
Rob ... how bad was the profanity ... f-bombs everywhere or fairly mild?

It was there, but if you've ever been around any kind of military/police event, it's the same kind of language.

191 posted on 04/28/2006 7:52:15 PM PDT by 11th_VA (UNITED 93 - Everything you need to know about Islam)
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To: Personal Responsibility

thanks for sharing those personal remarks about 9-11. I wish we all had that "Kill the Bastards" mentality.

I was in Maine on 9-11 and ended up driving home to Atlanta across NYC with the smoke still going and right past the Pentagon, the day after 9-11.

Every bridge from Maine to Atlanta had people with flags standing on it. And south of the Pentagon, at dusk, there were hundreds of cars pulled over to the shoulder, out of their cars with lit candles.

It still brings shivers to think of it.


192 posted on 04/28/2006 7:52:34 PM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Old Media gets more shrill, thrashing about like a dinosaur caught in the tar pits.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

What about the smell? Every once in a while, it still comes back and my bowels drop.


193 posted on 04/28/2006 7:54:52 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: sandyeggo
But linking a Koran to a bomb and martyr cries (“God is great!”) only makes it too easy to hate Islam, not plumb the motivations behind a callous death wish...

I hesitate to speculate what this brain-dead critic supposes the motivation behind the death wish is. The ability of people to fool themselves never ceases to amaze me.

194 posted on 04/28/2006 7:56:10 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (RICE 2008)
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To: RobFromGa
I'll be seeing this weekend for sure. I'll post my thoughts on this thread afterward.
195 posted on 04/28/2006 7:58:02 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Roccus

Yeah. I had forgotten about that smell. I guess I have not been around anything to remind me of it.


196 posted on 04/28/2006 7:58:05 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: svcw
It will be too late if democrats gain control of congress in November.

That must not be allowed to happen!

197 posted on 04/28/2006 7:59:22 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Roccus

I have a friend who was working down on Pearl St. when it happened. She walked up and across the 59th st. bridge, dust covered and all. She does not ever, ever talk about that day. I think she knew people who didn't make it.


198 posted on 04/28/2006 8:00:19 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I live in the hills of WV now. Sometimes, out of nowhere, it just comes to me. I don't know why, but it does.


199 posted on 04/28/2006 8:00:23 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: RobFromGa
Saw United 93 this afternoon in a theatre just up the road from the Ronkonkoma Air Traffic Control as seen in the movie. Please see it and be an eyewitness to authentic heroes with real courage. The 'foreign' appeaser in the film nauseated me and my beloved wife. UNITED 93 is a solemn event that inspires like nothing else in film. All the feelings of how you felt on that fateful day will come rushing back with a renewed spirit to take it to the enemy. Let's all make it the #1 film in America.
200 posted on 04/28/2006 8:01:54 PM PDT by LkRonkguy
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