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Myth vs. Fact: (You cannot deport 12 million people) Oh Yes You Can!
The New American ^ | May 1, 2006 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 04/25/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by underwiredsupport

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To: NJ_gent
"Or are you saying that illegal aliens have more righs than American citizens?"

Why can't you just discuss what I said, instead of putting words in my mouth then disagreeing with what you made up?

181 posted on 04/25/2006 2:17:12 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: kabar

Wel, if you crossed the Mississippi in a train...


182 posted on 04/25/2006 2:18:18 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: NJ_gent

Good point!


183 posted on 04/25/2006 2:18:34 PM PDT by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"We don't need 12 million deportations, we need a few thousand employers in jail and the illegal will first stop coming, and eventually will have no choice but to go home."

We need both. We need jobs and freebie hand-outs from government social services elimintated, and we need those found to be living here illegally deported. I'll take a million deportations over the next 5 years, with an Israeli style border security fence, and a bunch of employers of illegals fined and jailed. If we take away the jobs, take away the hand-outs, and deport those who continue to stay behind while keeping them out, we'll be about as close to illegal-free as possible.
184 posted on 04/25/2006 2:20:01 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: NJ_gent

My best guess tells me that the fence will not be built.


185 posted on 04/25/2006 2:20:44 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: underwiredsupport

B&B!!!

I have been saying this but this is a great reference to show to the anti-American supporters of these criminals.


186 posted on 04/25/2006 2:21:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: Zrob
"Build the fence first, screw bush, GOP and RATS: http://www.minutemanhq.com/bf/"

Fantastic. I'm going to donate $100 when I get home tonight, then I'm donating another $100 when I get my next paycheck. This is a fantastic idea.
187 posted on 04/25/2006 2:24:00 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

You left out Payroll Taxes.

Illegal Aliens cost more than they help -- period.

There is not a single line of BS in this article -- as much as you would like to wish there to be.


188 posted on 04/25/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

>>Are you saying that we did NOT import labor from Africa and China?<<

I said nothing of the kind.

You said there were jobs that Americans have NEVER done. I simply asked you to back up your claim. Name one.


189 posted on 04/25/2006 2:26:06 PM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: SerpentDove; Dane
Too bad I already gave away today's Free Republic Award for Best Dramatic Performance.

You almost always have to save it for that drama queen. Check out #159.

190 posted on 04/25/2006 2:27:30 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: underwiredsupport

Bump, for continued reference


191 posted on 04/25/2006 2:28:21 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Dane
You attack the publication without answering the question that the poster posed to you in the ping.

The question was: if we can't deport all the illegals now, what do we do when they reach the end of their 'guest worker' program and they're supposed to go home, but they refuse? Do we deport 11 million then? Or is that also impossible?
192 posted on 04/25/2006 2:29:26 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: inquest

I see the resident twits have piped in!


193 posted on 04/25/2006 2:30:33 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: underwiredsupport

bttt


194 posted on 04/25/2006 2:30:56 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: inquest

>>You almost always have to save it for that drama queen. Check out #159.
<<

Hoo boy. It's like TLBSHOW redux.


195 posted on 04/25/2006 2:32:07 PM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.

Car thieves pay taxes on the fuel they purchase to drive the stolen car. What's your point? Should they get to keep the car?

196 posted on 04/25/2006 2:32:50 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; Luis Gonzalez
"How could an illegal alien pay into SS when you have to be a citizen or legally authorized alien to do so?"

You lie on job applications and illegally steal the identity of an American citizen in violation of our identity theft and fraud laws.

How do you do anything when your very presence is illegal? Carrying forth such borderless family values as: identity theft, social security fraud, wire fraud, etc. Illegally, of course. What's breaking one more law when you've already broken so many?
197 posted on 04/25/2006 2:33:15 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: NJ_gent
You attack the publication without answering the question that the poster posed to you in the ping.

The New American is the house organ of the whacko birchers(do you believe that Eisenhower was a communist?) no different than the house organ of the old soviet union, pravda, or the house organ of the American democrat party, the new york times.

198 posted on 04/25/2006 2:33:36 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: NJ_gent
"You lie on job applications and illegally steal the identity of an American citizen in violation of our identity theft and fraud laws."

Your response assumes that only citizens get SS numbers, which is wrong.

You also assume tha some don't sell those numbers, which is also wrong.

199 posted on 04/25/2006 2:37:27 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"Question is:"

The question is: will this child have any credit left when he/she reaches majority, or will they spend the better part of their latter teens and early to mid twenties trying to repair the damage done by criminal alien identity thieves?
200 posted on 04/25/2006 2:38:19 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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