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Rebooting Your Airbus (After All The Screens Go Dark)
AV Web ^ | april 24, 2006 | Russ Niles

Posted on 04/24/2006 10:17:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

Rebooting Your Airbus (After All The Screens Go Dark)
April 24, 2006
By Russ Niles,
Newswriter, Editor

Cures aside, pilots of Airbus A320-series airliners are getting new guidance on what to do if the screens on their electronically biased aircraft go blank. "Checklists will be streamlined so re-booting of power is quicker," an Airbus spokesman told the London Daily Mirror after Britain's Air Accidents Investigation Branch released a report on an incident aboard a British Airways A319 last October. The plane was carrying 76 passengers to Budapest from London when most of the electronic displays went blank. The crew was able to bring everything back online in 90 seconds and the passengers were blissfully unaware of the glitch.

The incident brought to light five similar instances on Airbuses. In the October incident, the plane was over southern England when the crew heard an audible "clunk." Five of six screens went out, the intercom and radio failed, the autopilot and autothrottles disengaged and most of the cockpit lights went out. The captain took over the controls and flew night VFR (fortunately it was a clear night) while he and the first officer sorted out the power failure. The flying pilot's task was further complicated by the fact that the backup analog instruments aren't lit. The AAIB has issued a series of safety recommendations but its final report isn't finished yet.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aaahsht; airbus; aviatio; aviation; hatewhenthathappens; kissyourassgoodbye; linux; microsoft; windows; windowscrash
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To: Yo-Yo

This ain't acceptable. Imagine this crap happening between the middle and inner marker on a Cat III approach.


81 posted on 04/24/2006 2:58:39 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: xrp

Wow, that pilot sure did a heck of a job flying 100 miles without power! I will fly with him anytime.


82 posted on 04/24/2006 2:58:56 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Golden Eagle
I'm claiming Airbus uses Linux on these planes, not Windows, as some were claiming.

So is the article talking about the entertainment system on a plane (thats your photo) or are you trying to lie by posting a photo not at all related to the article?

83 posted on 04/24/2006 3:06:40 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Pukin Dog

Pilot is a blue collar job:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594480044/sr=8-1/qid=1145916379/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5053727-0355952?%5Fencoding=UTF8


84 posted on 04/24/2006 3:06:42 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: CarrotAndStick

If you are booked on an Airbus, change flights. [As many a dead Indian Airlines, Air France, Gulf Air etceteras passengers would have told you had they survived their Airbus computer glitches]


85 posted on 04/24/2006 3:06:54 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: N3WBI3

No, I'm simply trying to correct all the linux lies, like usual. Which would once again include you, if you're claiming ANY of the many crashed systems on Airbus are on Windows, and not on Linux.


86 posted on 04/24/2006 3:12:22 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3; Golden Eagle
Don't question Silver Shill too harshly or he will have the thread yanked because he doesn't want his employer (Micro$$$$oft) to see him unable to answer effectively.
87 posted on 04/24/2006 3:13:51 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: Yo-Yo
Cures aside, pilots of Airbus A320-series airliners are getting new guidance on what to do if the screens on their electronically biased aircraft go blank.

What is an "electronically biased aircraft"?

88 posted on 04/24/2006 3:18:31 PM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: MikefromOhio

I never cry to the admins, that's always you boys. Petronski and n3wbie seem to need their moma the most.


89 posted on 04/24/2006 3:19:04 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Which would once again include you, if you're claiming ANY of the many crashed systems on Airbus are on Windows, and not on Linux.

1) Never made that claim but I guess you just made a claim that none of the systems on an airbus that crash are windows based, do you have some proof?

90 posted on 04/24/2006 3:20:47 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle
I never cry to the admins, that's always you boys. Petronski and n3wbie seem to need their moma the most.

Whatever you say Iggle....
91 posted on 04/24/2006 3:25:41 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: N3WBI3

Yeah this thread is full of proof Airbus uses Linux on their planes and it's constantly crashing. Claims that it is Windows appear to be lies, but of course that's why YOU'RE here.


92 posted on 04/24/2006 3:27:19 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Yo-Yo

Not on topic, but aviation related:

Extremists may target private US planes: TSA
Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:38 AM ET

By Deborah Charles

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Transportation Security Administration has warned aircraft owners and airport managers that Muslim extremists may be targeting private American jets and urged them to boost security.

"On April 13, 2006, a message posted in Arabic on an Internet forum explained how to identify private American jets and urged Muslims to destroy all such aircraft," the TSA said in an advisory issued on Thursday and obtained by Reuters on Friday.

The TSA quoted the Arabic message as saying: "We call upon all Muslims to follow and identify private civilian American aircrafts in all airports of the world."

"It is the duty of Muslims to destroy all types of private American aircraft that are of the types Gulfstream and Lear Jet and all small aircraft usually used by distinguished (people) and businessmen," it quoted the message as saying.

It said the message explained how to identify private U.S. jets and also provided the tail number of a private plane believed to be used by the CIA.

The TSA and other law enforcement organizations regularly issue advisories when they have information of a potential threat though there have been no major incidents since the September 2001 hijacked plane attacks on New York and Washington in which about 3,000 people were killed.

The TSA urged airplane owners and operators to boost security measures and secure unattended aircraft and verify identification of crew and passengers.

"Be alert/aware of and report persons masquerading as pilots, security personnel, emergency medical technicians or other personnel using uniforms and/or vehicles as methods to gain access to aviation facilities or aircraft," the TSA advised.

It said the theft of any private airplane should immediately be reported to law enforcement and TSA.


93 posted on 04/24/2006 3:32:09 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Brian Allen

Another ignorant post. Look up how many 737 crashes there were in the last few years.


94 posted on 04/24/2006 3:35:59 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (No one censors speech they agree with.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

<< Another ignorant post. >>

Don't apologise. I've come to expect such of you.

Now, if it's not beyond you, tell me how many Boeing 737 accidents have EVER been attributable to computer failures and/or other anomalies.


95 posted on 04/24/2006 3:44:12 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Brian Allen

There has been only one airbus crash with loss of life in the last 5 years, the A300 in JFK with 260 deaths.

The A340 Air France crash had no deaths, and it was weather related, in 2001 an Air Transat A330 glided to a landing in the Azores, no deaths, it was pilot error.

Boeing

2005

Kam Air in Pakistan, 737-200, 104 dead

Saha Airlines, Iran, 707, 3 dead

Heilios Airlines, Greece 737-300 121 dead

TANS Airlines, Peru, 737-200, 40 dead

Mandala Airlines, Indonesia, 737-200 99 dead

Belleview Airlines, Nigeria, 737-200 117 dead

Southwest Airlines, Chicago Midway, 737-700 1 dead on ground

2004

Flash Air, Egypt, 737-300, 148 dead

2003

Air Algerie, Algeria 737-200, 102 dead

Sudan Airways, Sudan 737-200, 116 dead

Union des Transports Aeriens de Guinee, Benin, 727 140 dead

2002

Garuda, Indonesia, 737-300 1 dead

TAME Airlines, Columbia 727 92 dead

China Airlines, Taiwan 747-200 225 dead

Egypt Air, Tunisia, 737-500 14 dead

2001

Thai Airways Thailand, 737-400 1 dead


According to the last 5 years of travel, being in a 737 variant is the most dangerous.

I left out all the MCDonnell Douglas planes, but there were plenty.

More data, here

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/database.htm


96 posted on 04/24/2006 3:58:01 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (No one censors speech they agree with.)
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To: Brian Allen

Actually, lots of 737 crashes were due to the poor rudder design, United had one, Us Air had one, and someone else, you look it up.


97 posted on 04/24/2006 3:58:59 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (No one censors speech they agree with.)
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To: cll
Pilot is a blue collar job:

Yeah, I wouldn't know anything about that.

98 posted on 04/24/2006 4:04:57 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser; Brian Allen
Actually, lots of 737 crashes were due to the poor rudder design, United had one, Us Air had one, and someone else, you look it up.

What about the dirty hydraulic fluid found in some of those 737's?

99 posted on 04/24/2006 4:06:40 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Central Scrutiniser


1 A320 crash since 2000

1 A340 crash since 2000

1 A330 crash since 2000 (actually a dead stick landing)

2 A310 crashes since 2000

4 A300 crashes since 2000 (one was shot down by a missle, one was being towed at an airport and a plane hit it, one started on fire on the ground before takeoff)

18 737 crashes since 2000

6 747 crashes since 2000

1 757 crash since 2000 (9/11 left out)

2 767 crashes since 2000 (9/11 left out)

4 727 crashes since 2000

6 707 crashes since 2000


37 Boeing crashes, 9 Airbus crashes.


Does this mean one is safer than the other? Not necessarily, but you are more likely to crash in a 737 than anything else between the two manufacturers.

http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/database.cgi


100 posted on 04/24/2006 4:15:25 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (No one censors speech they agree with.)
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