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Bush Speech in Irvine - Live
KFMB Radio ^ | April 24, 2006 | n/a

Posted on 04/24/2006 9:23:15 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver

His speech started about 8 minutes ago. You can listen live at http://760kfmb.com/listen_live/


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; bush43; calvisit; disrespectful; donnerparty; fairweatherfans; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; irvine; itsallaboutohio; patplants; presidentbush; speech; supercons; unappeasables; usualsuspects
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To: sinkspur
The upcoming November general election may be too soon to see the full effects of this issue because, as you say, the Republican primary has already been held. But anyone who desires a political future as a Republican in Texas has to be on the Dan Patrick (for lack of a better label) side of the border issue. I think that includes Perry and Dewhurst, although Dewhurst is too self-absorbed to take the views of the electorate very seriously.

We may be "highjacking" this thread into a Texas politics thread. If so, my apologies to whoever is offended. It's just hard to talk about this issue in the abstract without discussing how you see it playing out in your locale.
361 posted on 04/24/2006 11:43:13 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Guenevere; ohioWfan; spectre; La Enchiladita
A much needed post, Guenie. Thank you.
ohioWfan does not take the side of POTUS regarding immigration. She does take issue with Bush bashing, as I do too.

I really like all the posters involved, but I want to admit I know owf the best.
I've gone back to read the exchanges and IMO, some posts just got a little out of hand. The immigration ISSUE is HOT and tempers flare.

ohioWfan is right about this: but for 9/11, President Bush's immigration plan (which has not changed) was about to be enacted.

362 posted on 04/24/2006 11:44:20 AM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: ohioWfan
It is inaccurate to say that he is not in favor of enforcing the laws.

What is more accurate is to say he is in favor of appearing to be enforcing the laws.

363 posted on 04/24/2006 11:45:36 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: WalterSkinner

:)

I'll try to remember to ping you to the posts about him.

364 posted on 04/24/2006 11:47:54 AM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: ohioWfan
There are polls that do not back up your assertion that most Americans oppose a guest worker program.

That's because it's bottomline result, illegal alien amnesty, has been sufficiently obfuscated to bambozzle a lot of people.

365 posted on 04/24/2006 11:51:13 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: onyx
..thanks onyx

IMHO he is the most Reaganesque

366 posted on 04/24/2006 11:51:15 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: WalterSkinner


Rides horses too!


367 posted on 04/24/2006 11:51:58 AM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: Iwo Jima
But I still say he will defend the border, or suffer negative political consequences. How's that?

I disagree with you. That's the job of the federal government, not the government of Texas.

Do you know what is the equivalent of impeachment for a governor in Texas?

Why would a Republican State House and Congress impeach a Republican governor?

368 posted on 04/24/2006 11:53:59 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: NathanR

it worse then that now, more like 45 minutes from the courthouse to the freeway..


369 posted on 04/24/2006 11:56:17 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: onyx; Guenevere; spectre
This is what happens simply for standing up to ohioWfan's bullying. That's fine; I can take it.

I didn't read all the posts, but I stand by everything I have said and it is NOT Bush-bashing. It is truth. And I don't need to stop any of my posting unless the moderators ask me to.

No one is perfect, and that includes the president. He is dead wrong on the issue. He has a blind spot, a soft spot for Mexicans, does not understand where the border is and what it means, or SHOULD mean. He is not aware of what fine people American citizens are, as he insults us every single time with his "jobs Americans won't do" rhetoric. And, I add, these are citizens who campaigned and voted for him, who pay taxes and play by the rules. When he insults us, it makes me damn mad!!!!!

370 posted on 04/24/2006 11:56:25 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: sinkspur
Bush's position on immigration hasn't changed [since 2004].

While that may well be true, conservatives have waited in vain for it to evolve into something realistic and effective. Patience and benefit of a doubt can be sustained only so long.

371 posted on 04/24/2006 11:57:32 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: luvbach1
While that may well be true, conservatives have waited in vain for it to evolve into something realistic and effective.

No. Some conservatives have expected Bush to morph into Tancredo. That was never going to happen.

372 posted on 04/24/2006 12:02:15 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: zook

In the Katrina recovery work that is going on here in Mississippi, the problem long-time local contractors are finding is that there are not enough Americans that are willing to work for the normal construction wages they pay. Many that do take a job, show up late for work, drink on the job, or quit in the middle of a job. They are also tearing up expensive equipment, and then not alerting anyone to that fact.

Many contractors are forced to hire illegal mexicans, as they cannot find ENOUGH Americans willing to work. Many of these mexicans will work from daylight to dark, while many long-time construction workers start cleaning up at 3PM for a 3:30PM quitting time.

This can be seen every day in Mississippi, for those that want to believe that I am lying.


BTW, Reagan is on record using (in speeches concerning immigration), the "hated phrase" "Work Americans will not do"! It's on the net, so check it out!

BTW, I am for securing the borders, and deporting all illegals. Then we can talk about a "guest worker" program.

LLS


373 posted on 04/24/2006 12:02:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: sinkspur
...expected Bush to morph into Tancredo.

Not me.

374 posted on 04/24/2006 12:11:34 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Guenevere; spectre
I don't like what I'm seeing either, Guennie. Not at all.

That's why I'm praying so hard for the President about this, and writing e-mails and making phone calls to our Senators.

As for spectre.....she can't see straight. She's got a goofy idea in her head about me, and nothing I say will get it out of there.

If you don't mind, please tell her for me that I'm not interested in any more of her emotional insults based on wrongheaded ideas about me.

Thanks. Nice to see you again, FRiend.

375 posted on 04/24/2006 12:13:21 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: onyx; WalterSkinner

"I think George Allen is misrepresented in the listing."


When that listing came out is was representative of his stance. I spoke with his office on March 29th and his position was very wishy washy. He had NO position on a fence, virtual or otherwise at that time.

April 3rd I spoke to his office again and his positions sounded a little stronger. Would consider a guest worker program later, but no path to citizenship or amnesty. Supported a "virtual" fence that day.

April 24th, today at 2:00 his position now:

Fence - Virtual with physical barriers in some areas.

Guest Worker Program - NOT if it contains a path to citizenship, ie NO to Frist's bill #S2454.

Illegals - "They have no rights as citizens." When I asked if he supported deportation the eventual answer was yes.

I spoke with Frist's office and learned that his bill has now lost support and has been removed. His office is also saying he now supports a virtual fence with some actual.

I wonder if it has to do with the poll he has on his pac site:
http://www.volpac.org/

Do you support amnesty for illegal aliens?



Yes: 6%
No: 93%
Undecided: 1%

4922 total votes


376 posted on 04/24/2006 12:13:34 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: SeaBiscuit
You could be right. I just don't base any opinion that I have on polls, no matter what they say.

Have a good day, yourself, SeaBiscuit. :)

377 posted on 04/24/2006 12:14:50 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: All

Perhaps if Bush had not suggested that opponents of his proposed amnesty were racist and/or lacking in compassion he would not be taking the blowback from his base (or what once was his base).


378 posted on 04/24/2006 12:15:18 PM PDT by negril
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To: rock58seg
If you were going to spout the "same ole" crap, with which none of your supporters agree, would you really want to get around to talking about it?

No, I guess not.

379 posted on 04/24/2006 12:18:09 PM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Justanobody

Is it true Frist has changed his mind and will not be pushing the guest worker program?


380 posted on 04/24/2006 12:20:25 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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