Posted on 04/23/2006 5:59:31 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
Who cares if GOP loses Congress?
By Joe Scarborough
Who really cares if Republicans lose Congress? Certainly not GOP leaders in the US House.
As the Wall Street Journal reported, the Republican pigs running Congress are wasting more money than those big-spending Democrats ever did.
Last month's deficit was the highest ever. But while Rome burns, Republicans obsess over their earmarks.
Conservative Republicans. What an oxymoron.
There is nothing conservative about the party to which I once proudly belonged. Like millions, I am disgusted by my party and their leaders.
A handful of responsible adults still understand the need for reform. But don't tell that to GOP bulls who have been trying to spend money like drunken sailors since they were empowered by the Revolution of 1994.
Some revolution.
A decade later, Republicans have given America the biggest deficit ever. The biggest debt ever. The biggest trade gap ever. The highest spending increases ever. A 110% increase in the education bureaucracy. A 100% increase in the Justice bureaucracy. An 88% increase in the Department of HHS. More pork projects than ever before. More earmarks than ever before. More reckless spending projects than ever before. A bigger, more wasteful government than ever before.
Why the hell should conservatives work to put these whores back in their perches of power?
Could Nancy Pelosi's Congress be worse?
Not on the spending level, because George W. Bush would have the courage to veto her outrageous spending bills. Sadly, he has shown no such fortitude with his own party in charge.
It is disgusting. It is also a problem I diagnosed two years ago in my book. But Republicans weren't listening then and they won't listen now.
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You must have been responding to someone else and accidentally posted me.
I am so sorry....I was expounding on your opinion...because I agreed with it...
BUT, I should have acknowledged that...
Sorry if I caused you confusion!!
He didn't make any point. He just whined. The dems look good? And name one thing that the dems have done that make them look good.
Of course for many posters here other factors outweigh fiscal responsibility at the most important policy goal, and I'm not trying to argue anyone out of such a position.
But if we intend (for example) to conduct an extensive preemptive military effort in the WOT we either have to get our fiscal house in order or starve necessary domestic spending to get the job done - the rest of the world is not going to finance an ever increasing US defect indefinitely.
And I appreciate yours as well -
Look Dev, there will ALWAYS be a reason why we can't back off support of the party.
I hear your sentiment here (as I said to a degree prior). But there are times to step away (plenty of times) and there are specific times in history where to me that isn't an option.
This CIC has taken too many arrows for standing up for what is right on a number of big issues. He is leading this country and the World (for that matter) steadfastly in this WOT.
No, at times like these, you cowboy up, bite your tongue when one has to, stand shoulder to shoulder and say come hell or high water I'm going to be here fighting and seeing this war through with my CIC.
The GOP needs more than that to attract regular voters, I agree.
But FReepers aren't supposed to be regular voters. They're supposed to be clued-in and conservative.
In other words, FReepers shouldn't need to be "attracted." They should already know how bad the Rats are. They should already know the Rats are much worse than the GOP, and that this is reason enough to keep them out of power. The only way to do this is to keep the GOP in power, or more precisely, in office.
Dev, weren't 17 of the 19 terrorists from Saudi Arabia?
Please explain why I should take the War on Terrorism serious if Bush is going to allow 1000 times as many Saudi Arabians to be on our soil, than took part in 09/11.
As I'm sure you are aware, the Wahabi sect is the prevalent sect of Islam in Saudi Arabia, and it is very anti-Western.
"The Republicans are never more conservative than when they're in the minority."
Probably true. But we don't just want "conservative," we want them to make a difference. If we had a Rat Senate, Alito wouldn't be on the Supreme Court. A RINO would have that seat.
And that's exactly what will happen with the next SCOTUS vacancy if the Rats win the Senate. Maybe even if they gain a couple of seats.
Anyone stupid enough to ask that question cannot be taken seriously.
There is no doubt the Republican congress is a major disappointment, but it is, in large part, because of the jello-spined RINOs who prevent the conservatives from holding the line.
Sadly, GWB has been a large contributor to the spending problem. But, go back and listen to his campaign promises of 2000. He promised all of this socialist crap. I was appalled at the time, and hoped he was spreading the usual "pandering politican" BS to suck in the "moderates". But GWB is a man of his word, so here we are.
Unfortunately, the problem is, we conservatives are a minority, and are stuck with the likes of Lincoln Chafee, etc., but anyone who thinks a RAT congress would be spending less is an idiot.
"unfortunately both parties have taken themselves to their respective lunatic fringes "
That isn't true. The Dems are beholden to their left wing. We are beholden to our Rinos, which are not the fringe. Our fringe would have cut back the deficit had they been in charge.
I guess it depends on whether you believe John Conyers, Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton wouldn't do any worse.
Yep. We have problems. We have traitorous dems waiting to get in. We have Republicans in Congress unwilling to fight. And we have many conservative voters who have deteriorated into a bunch of crybabies and whiners.
We're in a marathon. We should unemotionally and methodically try to upgrade the players on our side with conservatives that can speak and persuade the public to our views to get the votes to prevail, not give the ball to the other side FCOL.
While I am definitely a person of the mind frame typically that thinks "there is nothing more complex then avoiding the obvious"
I still clearly think you are being overly simplistic regarding the issue above (17 terrorists were Saudi, therefore no Saudi's should be coming here to the States).
That just isn't how the world works today. Again, the first thing serious adults have to do (in any aspect of life) is to make choices from options that are actual available to them (wishing for pie in the sky solutions...isn't one of those).
The Saudi situation is much like the situation in Pakistan (again, to a degree) in that the leaders of these nations have to do somewhat of a balancing act to stay in power.
With that said, that does not mean we are just allowing "anybody" from Saudi (or other ME countries) into the United States. That just isn't the case.
In this WOT our CIC has steadfastly lead our nation and the World. Since Sept 11th, our enemies have suffered one strategic defeat after another...we have not suffered one. Yes, we most certainly are taking this WOT very seriously (that doesn't mean one has to agree with every aspect of how it is being implemented).
But as I said before, I believe this is a time in our history to stand shoulder to shoulder with our CIC and say come hell or high-water I'm going to fight and see this war through. (that doesn't mean I agree with everything some of those fools in the GOP Congress do...not by a long shot...but on the whole this CIC cannot afford to have the ilk of the Democrat party hold a majority in either chamber of Congress).
Dev, it truly baffles me how a person can lay out information in a very simple manner and someone else cannot understand the significance of that information. We lost 3000 people, three trade center buildings and four 747 aircraft, but you blithley tell me the world just doesn't operate in a manner where we can chose who will or won't enter our nation.
Then you have the gaul to make reference to adult vs childish perceptions to boot.
We have twenty thousand Saudis entering this nation this year, and you evidently think we have all the manpower needed to run exhaustive background checks on each of them.
I don't think we do. I don't think we even make an attempt to check them all out. And furthermore, I don't think we have a chance in hell of keeping tabs on 20,000 individuals.
I simply cannot fathom why you would want to take another chance like this, after the price we paid four and a half years ago. What would it take?
I care as bad as the Republicans are acting they are not selling out our Country. They are not leaking secrets and underminding our troops. They are not siding with our enemies. We can fix the Republican party in the primaries, we can not fix the liberals.
This is really for all FReepers. I'm sorry for every negative post I've ever written about you guys. Ok, can somebody calm me down about the Fairness Doctrine that could come back if Democrats are back in power. Would it really make my obsession(Talk Radio) boring?
Jonathan
Once again we may be missing the point. Like you say, Paloma, the party we thought we were issuing into power seems to be far different in the reality of their actions.
Rather than giving up on support for the Republicans, the only solution to this problem will be won or lost in our primaries. When the Republicans prove not to be conservatives, let us not give up on the party, but rather expell from it those interlopers and pretenders who have disgraced the party.
Many Republican Senators and Congressmen have tried to press a conservative agenda. Let us not throw out the conservatives with the bath water.
If we allow incumbent "republicans" to demand that no challenger to them be taken seriously, much less supported, in the primaries, then we are indeed hoist on our own petard.
We need to channel this anger into defeating, in the primaries, every RINO currently serving. This nonsense about, "Well, if you don't leave ME on the ballot as the Rpublican candidate, then the Democrat will win..." is the stuff of losers.
If there are not enough of us conservatives, who will work tirelessly to defeat the discredited "Republicans" already in the House and Senate, then we may as well expect more of the same as far as the eye can see.
USE THIS ANGER... and withdraw the power of attorney which we have handed to the Republican Party, until such time as a quorum of Republicans are conservatives and vertebrates.
We should be ashamed and angry that a Senator Arlen Spector still is on the payroll. Angry that we acquiesced in it. Angry enough to disregard those who urge more of the same. Angry enough to bloody well change things while we still can, using a ballot printed in English, rather than the "all the languages of the world" that the liberals plan.
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