[DoughtyOne]

I appreciate the comments. Look Dev, there will ALWAYS be a reason why we can't back off support of the party.

The illegal immigration issue is simply one of many issues. Why are we allowing over 20,000 Saudi Nationals to enter our nation on student VISAs after what happened in 2001? Whey are we allowing people from terrorist states to STILL immigrate to the U.S.

If we were acting as if we were truly at war across the board, I could continue support. No, we pick and choose and play fast an loose with our security. I've had it.

What the hell are we doing providing something like $250 million dollars to the Palestinians for? They voted in a terrorist organization to run their affairs?

I know you disagree and that your right. If my homeland is going to be sold out, I'm simply not going to be a party to it. It's that simple for me.

[SevenMinusOne]

I appreciate the comments

And I appreciate yours as well -

Look Dev, there will ALWAYS be a reason why we can't back off support of the party.

I hear your sentiment here (as I said to a degree prior). But there are times to step away (plenty of times) and there are specific times in history where to me that isn't an option.

This CIC has taken too many arrows for standing up for what is right on a number of big issues. He is leading this country and the World (for that matter) steadfastly in this WOT.

No, at times like these, you cowboy up, bite your tongue when one has to, stand shoulder to shoulder and say come hell or high water I'm going to be here fighting and seeing this war through with my CIC.

[zbigreddogz]

Whey are we allowing people from terrorist states to STILL immigrate to the U.S.

A better question would be, why are we attempting to create a Democracy in Iraq and Afganistan if all of them are essentially alike?

The answer is that they aren't. There are good and bad muslims, good and bad people from, say, Sadi Arabia, Iran, Syria, etc.

Cutting off all immigration from those countries would essentially say "We think you are all terrorists and are all untrustworthy." That would be the only logic behind it. If this is the case, that they are all either terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, we mine as well pack up in Iraq, Afganistan, etc. because clearly we can't create a stable democracy out of a bunch of terrorists.

If you are going to buy into that logic, you have only two rational solutions: Do nothing, or committ genocide. Clearly, neither option is morally right or reasonably acceptable.

Thankfully, George Bush understands the problem in a litte more of a 3 dimentional way, and he doesn't buy into that warped logic.