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Law clears some drug store shelves
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | April 23 | Rich Cholodofsky

Posted on 04/23/2006 10:07:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy

Looking for decongestants to relieve sinus and allergy symptoms soon could become a real headache. The same legislation that gives law-enforcement officials broad powers to identify terrorists now enables the government to track the sale of certain over-the-counter medications that can be abused or used by drug rings to manufacture methamphetamines.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allergies; drugs; drugwar; meth; patriotact
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To: ozarkgirl
It is troublesome and I'm not for lots of laws but I stand behind this one.

When I was a kid in the 60's, the manager would chase us out of the store when he knew we weren't buying cough syrup for a cough. Shoo! Shoo!

It worked well.

21 posted on 04/23/2006 10:29:10 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: PghBaldy

That law came into effect in Kentucky last year and it really has helped cut down on meth production. Problem is far from solved, but it's better. I don't have a problem with having to sign a form to get medication.


22 posted on 04/23/2006 10:30:10 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: PghBaldy

This is another ill conceived law that criminalizes people for buying over the counter medicine, rather than those who make and use meth. Many people in this country, even some of our FRiends, find these laws acceptable if they do some good. Not only do they not consider any negative consequences of this law, they do not consider the precedent it sets in regards to further criminalizing victimless actions.


23 posted on 04/23/2006 10:30:42 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: PghBaldy
Just what hospitals and doctors need.People with serious colds sitting in the waiting room coughing and hacking germs everywhere,just to get a prescription for cold medicine.Time to look up grandmas home remedy's.
24 posted on 04/23/2006 10:32:34 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: PghBaldy
I was in the drugstore picking up a prescription when a man came to the pharmacy looking for a decongestant. When he asked why aren't they over-the-counter anymore, the druggist replied that they were over-the-counter because you didn't need a prescription for them. The guy was not amused, and neither was I.
25 posted on 04/23/2006 10:32:49 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: All

I'm not saying there isn't a major problem with meth labs, or terrorists using drugs to fund their ops. I blame a lot of this nonsense on PC. Instead of looking at who is most likely to be engaged in terror, the govt throws a vast net over the country. I don't believe either party wants to become tyrants, but by their actions, they make it more likely. All of these "helpful" & "Urgently needed" laws for this or that "crisis" are disturbing. We are frogs in slowly boiling water.


26 posted on 04/23/2006 10:34:44 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

I have been signing for it in Illinois for a long time but was in Oklahoma a couple of weeks ago and bought it without showing id or signing anything.


27 posted on 04/23/2006 10:39:50 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: ozarkgirl
"I know this is a nuisance, I've had to buy as well but here in Missouri meth production was rampant and has been drastically decreased by this law. Often times the ones that get hooked on this stuff are teenagers, then their life is ruined, they spend years in jail (at taxpayer expense), manufacture and get other kids hooked. It is troublesome and I'm not for lots of laws but I stand behind this one."

Agreed...

28 posted on 04/23/2006 10:43:32 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Conservatives protect Americans from terrorists. Liberals protect terrorists from Americans.")
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To: PghBaldy
Public drunks is a problem everywhere.

In Texas, the police just go into bars and arrest those who appear to be to drunk to drive.

29 posted on 04/23/2006 10:48:11 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: ozarkgirl

And now meth will just come up from mexico, like was already happening...

Dumb laws like this do nothing to stop the big distributors. This will just give them more power. The only thing it will hamper is the small time meth makers.


30 posted on 04/23/2006 10:52:54 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: flashbunny

Hey, maybe we should seal the border? Here is Missouri the law is working.


31 posted on 04/23/2006 11:07:26 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: flashbunny

That wont be a problem for much longer. Manufacturers of Pseudoephedrine are already moving to Phenylephrine. In a few years it'll be hard for meth labs to even find Pseudoephedrine.


32 posted on 04/23/2006 11:08:18 AM PDT by Brellium
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To: PghBaldy

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33 posted on 04/23/2006 11:12:19 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th (Send-a-Brick.com. Send a brick to Washington to help build a wall on the Southern border.)
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To: Brellium

Not coming from south of the border it won't.


34 posted on 04/23/2006 11:23:40 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Freee-dame

And, when turned into Meth we are no longer discussing dancing merry makers, but something more like crazy people with their teeth falling out.


35 posted on 04/23/2006 11:26:34 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: TheDon
Another alternative is to put the drug back under the requirement that it be prescribed.

Is that the precedent?

36 posted on 04/23/2006 11:27:55 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: flashbunny
When it comes to Meth, there are ONLY small time operators ~ most with their teeth falling out ~ another hazard with that stuff.

They also have a higher than normal death rate.

37 posted on 04/23/2006 11:29:45 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

"When it comes to Meth, there are ONLY small time operators ~ most with their teeth falling out ~ another hazard with that stuff."

Wrong, wrong wrong.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs10/10402/meth.htm

"Mexican criminal groups, who often operate high capacity superlabs, are the primary producers of methamphetamine in the Pacific and Southwest Regions; however, Caucasian independent producers also are active, typically operating low capacity laboratories capable of producing ounce quantities of methamphetamine."



http://www.coolnurse.com/meth.htm

"Historically, suppliers of methamphetamine in the United States were gangs and other independent trafficking groups. Although gangs continue to produce meth and control a share of the market, Mexico-based trafficking groups entered the illicit methamphetamine market in 1995 and now dominate the trade. With their ability to obtain wholesale (multi-ton) quantities of precursor chemicals on the international market, their access to already established smuggling and distribution networks, and their control over laboratories capable of large-scale production and distribution of methamphetamine, these criminal groups from Mexico now dominate wholesale meth trafficking in the United States.

Over the past few years, these groups revolutionized the production and distribution of methamphetamine by operating “super labs” that can produce unprecedented quantities of high-purity methamphetamine. Each such lab is capable of producing 10 pounds or more per manufacturing cycle. "


38 posted on 04/23/2006 11:40:16 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: flashbunny
10 pounders eh?

What did I say about "small time operators". 'at's 'em.

39 posted on 04/23/2006 11:45:55 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: atomic_dog

For sure. Meth is ok, it won't hurt anyone. You just keep dreaming those dreams.



40 posted on 04/23/2006 11:45:58 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental illness!)
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