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Prince Harry: Send me to war or I quit
The Mail on Sunday ^ | April 23, 2006 | CHRISTOPHER LEAKE

Posted on 04/23/2006 2:39:38 AM PDT by MadIvan

Prince Harry has threatened to quit the Army if commanders refuse to send him to the front line.

He told senior officers before recently passing out of Sandhurst as a Second Lieutenant: ‘If I am not allowed to join my unit in a war zone, I will hand in my uniform.’

Harry, 21, and third in line to the throne, has previously talked of his desire to see action with his comrades and the prospect of him walking out on the Army if he is not allowed on to the front line has turned a theoretical problem into a nightmare for the Palace and Ministry of Defence.

The embarrassment for the Army caused by him quitting would be matched by uproar at the notion that while ordinary citizens are allowed to that their main problem is not whether Harry can take the pressure of coming under fire in action – but whether the lives of the men fighting alongside him will be more at risk because he is regarded as a ‘trophy target’ by insurgents.

One experienced commander said: ‘Second Lt Wales will, as far as is possible, be treated like any other officer but there has to be a line drawn as to whether the men he leads might experience extra danger due to his presence. Decisions will be taken by commanding officers based on an accurate risk assessment at the time.’

In talks between the MoD and Clarence House, it has been suggested that if Harry is deployed to the front line he should be given a safe role, acting as a liaison officer at a military HQ well away from the action.

But sources close to Harry said last night: ‘He will go bananas if he is given special treatment. He doesn’t want to let the rest of the lads and lasses down by opting out. He was always the first to volunteer on exercises.’

In the final weeks of his Sandhurst training, Harry took part in an exercise in which he acted as commanding officer and sources say that his performance was ‘outstanding’.

The mobility of the Blues and Royals’ light Scimitar reconnaissance vehicles will be a great value in Afghanistan and senior commanders say the Cavalry unit could be sent to Helmand province to support Paras in what is regarded as one of the most dangerous parts of the world.

Harry would command a troop of 11 men who would drive into the front line in their Scimitars.

He would lead his men in searching possibly booby-trapped buildings, hunting down insurgents and providing escorts and combat support to infantry operations.

Harry would be required to command his Scimitar team and remain on the ground, although all troop commanders are expected to do their stint in the operations room, which involves logging events, co-ordinating patrols and directing support where needed.

The Household Cavalry – made up of the Blues and Royals and the Life Guards – is one of the most active units in the British Army and its most senior and oldest regiment.

It has troops attached to the Paras and the Marines, took part in the invasion of Iraq and has since deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Next month, a squadron of the Household Cavalry will go to Afghanistan in support of 16 Air Assault Brigade. A second squadron is on standby to deploy to Iraq this year and another is preparing to back 3 Commando Brigade when it departs to Afghanistan later this year.

D Squadron of the Household Cavalry Regiment (HCR) supported 16 Air Assault Brigade during the initial battles in the Iraq conflict. HCR also deployed two squadrons to Iraq in 2004.

A high percentage of its officers serve in the SAS and its squadrons support both the Royal Marines and the Parachute Regiment. The Household Cavalry’s Scimitars spearheaded the advance across the Falklands in 1982, led the way in Bosnia and were first into Saudi Arabia in 1991 before the first Gulf War and again in Iraq in 2003.

Elements of the Blues and Royals and the Life Guards have regularly deployed to Iraq and three Cavalrymen have been killed. They were Lance Corporal of Horse Matty Hull, Lance Corporal Karl Shearer and Lieutenant Alexander Tweedie, all from the Blues and Royals.

Three years ago during the battle for Basra, Trooper Chris Finney of the Blues and Royals, who was just 19, won a rare George Cross for gallantry for saving his comrades after their Scimitar came under attack, by mistake, from American bombers.

Young men of Harry’s rank have regularly lost their lives in Iraq. Only a week ago, Lt Richard Palmer, of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, died after his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb near Ad Day, north-west of Basra. In July 2005, Second Lt Richard Shearer, 26, from Nuneaton, of the 1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment, died with Privates Leon Spicer and Phillip Hewett in a roadside bomb blast north of Basra.

Harry will be only the second Royal since the Second World War to be posted to a battle zone.

The other was Prince Andrew, who flew Sea King helicopters in the Falklands War. A Clarence House die for their country, members of the Royal Family are considered too important to risk. It would also reopen the debate about Britain’s role in engagements such as Iraq which are widely unpopular and considered by many to be illegal.

The Mail on Sunday revealed last year that the Palace and MoD were holding crisis talks about how to handle Harry’s future military role.

However, his ultimatum has now raised the stakes. It will also increase the urgency of deciding how to treat Prince William who is due to leave Sandhurst in December, presenting Royal and defence officials with the same dilemma about how near the front line he should be allowed.

Harry’s unit, the Blues and Royals, will deploy to Afghanistan this year and he is likely to join them there next year. Senior Army sources say


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gnfa; iraq; princeharry; royals; uk; uktroops; war
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To: FerdieMurphy

He went to Sandhurst, and was well trained - I wouldn't mind.

Regards, Ivan


61 posted on 04/23/2006 5:26:31 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
He's a Sandhurst trained Second Lieutenant. I'd rely on him as much as I would any well trained but inexperienced officer.

The crown on Grandma's head doesn't matter. The pip on his shoulder does.

62 posted on 04/23/2006 5:26:58 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: ncountylee

<< Aren't there rumors that his [Sperm doner was] ... a military [Person]? >>

As a glance at him and at one of the slatternly Diana Spencer's score or so of extramarital sexual servicers, former [Sarfend-on-Sea, not Baywatch] Life Guard's officer James "Rat" Hewitt leaves not the slightest doubt about who's his father.

To boot, he looks as much like his half brother, Billy-Bubba Windsor, as does one of Grandma Windsor's corgis.


63 posted on 04/23/2006 5:32:21 AM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: MadIvan

There's hope for the future of Britain if you've more like this one in your ranks!


64 posted on 04/23/2006 5:32:47 AM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: naturalman1975
"The crown on Grandma's head doesn't matter. The pip on his shoulder does"

Well said.

65 posted on 04/23/2006 5:33:22 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

I think perhaps he does not want strings pulled by his family to keep him from a posting in Iraq.


66 posted on 04/23/2006 5:36:00 AM PDT by mware (You mean we don't get FRench benefits)
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To: MadIvan

Good for him. I say let him go where he's needed.


67 posted on 04/23/2006 5:37:00 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: MadIvan
I have to admire his bravado and willingness to put his life on the line.

As do I. However, at the same time, you have to realize that the terrorists will mark his unit as one to hit especially hard, with him in it. Imagine the media coup, should they kill an heir to the throne, or G-d forbid, capture him! This is a situation that could turn into a nightmare for the British military, and they're in a no-win situation.

Mark

68 posted on 04/23/2006 5:40:30 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: MarkL

Its simple. He saw "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe" and how Peter and Edmund kicked White Queen army ass and thought "Why cant I do that?"

Thanks C.S.-L!


69 posted on 04/23/2006 5:48:17 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American..............)
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To: television is just wrong
He must be trying to find himself. Second in line, after his brother. Looking for his own spot in history?

Plausible. He could also be sick to death of the phoney hoopla and very keenly ready for some "real" life.

70 posted on 04/23/2006 5:53:05 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: jocon307

Third, actually, after his father and brother.

GO HARRY! May you be safe, but good on you for a good attitude!

More fellows like this I say, and less panty-waists all around.




Any chance he could shame his father into . . . some sort of . . . welllll . . . perhaps mine clearing duty?

. . . though I realize that given the choice between tampon duty and mine clearing duty there'd be no doubt of his selection.

But there must be a way to sideline his royal arrogance in favor of either of his sons.

Actually, probably any number of Charles' servants would make a better king.


71 posted on 04/23/2006 5:55:59 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: Enterprise

I hope that he finds the leader in himself that he seeks. In time, the citizens of England may need that leadership.




Actually, they desperately need that leadership now. Fat chance they'll be given the luxury of it. The NWO folks have other plans.


72 posted on 04/23/2006 5:57:11 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: MadIvan
What a role reversal. Before Harry looked like the loser and now he's talking like a man while his brother is looking like a doofus

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006160428,00.html
73 posted on 04/23/2006 5:57:26 AM PDT by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: MarkL
"...you have to realize that the terrorists will mark his unit as one to hit especially hard, with him in it.'

Where I come from this is called an opportunity. The job of the military is to kill bad guys. One of the problems in wars of this type is that it is difficult to determine where the enemy will hit. If they are going to try to hit red haired guys specifically in his unit, the enemy will become much more vulnerable. Have everyone in the unit dye their hair red, then lock & load.

74 posted on 04/23/2006 5:58:19 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: spikeytx86

Old Britain is still alive and well.
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Old Britain still alive? Perhaps in minor spots.

And well? That's a far stretch, imho.


75 posted on 04/23/2006 5:59:00 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: Caipirabob

I hope he gets his wish, and that he returns safe, a roll model for both our peoples. We need them so much more these days.
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That's fur durn sure! And scant few of them of any serious quality seem to be around in any obvious places.


76 posted on 04/23/2006 6:00:36 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: TomGuy

Prince Harry does seem to have more 'character' and gumption than most of the Royals.
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And brains, I think.

Though perhaps his dad's . . . faculties . . . are degraded by where his head seems to spend most of it's time.


77 posted on 04/23/2006 6:02:09 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: dinasour

Now I know he's not Charles kid.
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Indeed.

Charles' bona fide offspring are reported to be lots of cotton in tidy little rolls scattered all about willy nilly.


78 posted on 04/23/2006 6:04:07 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: All
Good for Harry! Many Englishmen were born to be great leaders and outstanding military men in the history of that "sceptre'd isle", even though they were of royal blood.

It could be that Harry's destined to be a man's man and a courageous one at that. Time will tell. Give him his chance if it's possible in any way for him to show his mettle without endangering others.

England has an heir and a spare. Let the spare prove himself without belittling.

Leni

79 posted on 04/23/2006 6:27:18 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("FReeps Ahoy 4" will be sailing May 13th! We'll have After-Cruise Pix to Post. Stay Tuned !)
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To: MadIvan

He may be getting more than he bargained for, but both your nation and mine exist only because of such individuals.


80 posted on 04/23/2006 6:33:31 AM PDT by Roccus
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