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Big Hillary Clinton Win in NY Could Cost GOP House
NewsMax.com ^ | April 21, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/22/2006 5:02:11 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

National Republicans may pay a huge price for not doing more to oppose Hillary Clinton's Senate reelection bid this year.

In fact, it may cost them control of the House.

Bloomberg News reports that the former first lady, along with Democratic gubernatorial candidate Eliot Spitzer, now lead their opponents by such wide margins that their coattails could help Democrats "pick up as many as six New York congressional seats - more than one-third of the 15 they need nationally to gain a House majority."

Lee Miringoff, director of the Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, agrees that Clinton and Spitzer victories could have national consequences.

"It could turn into a Democratic year in New York, which might then have an impact on down-ballot races for Congress," he explained.

Even absent the New York factor, Republicans are already deeply worried that the House could go Democrat - a prospect that White House spokeswoman Mary Matalin described on Thursday as "catastrophic."

Add a Hillary Clinton landslide into the equation and Republican hopes grow considerably dimmer, at least if Miringoff's calculations hold true.

With so much on the line, one would expect the national GOP to be working overtime to boost Clinton's challenger, former Yonkers Mayor John Spencer. Even if he didn't win, a closer race might help preserve precious congressional seats for the GOP.

But outside of a brief critique of Mrs. Clinton "brittleness" delivered by Karl Rove earlier this year, the Bush White House is acting like they have nothing at stake in the New York race.

That's particularly odd, because if Dems take over the House, future House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers has already indicated that impeachment will be at the top of his agenda.

The conservative media hasn't been much better. After Jeanine Pirro's challenge fizzled in December, most pundits have treated Mrs. Clinton's reelection as a forgone conclusion.

Even though recent polls show Spencer gaining on Clinton, he's gotten almost no exposure on talk radio and cable TV - and print interviews have been slim to none.

That's not because Spencer has nothing to say - his comments to NewsMax earlier this year show he's ready to go after Hillary hammer and tong.

Still, Republican Party activists seem content to have Mrs. Clinton's reelection devolve into a coronation.

That's fine - as long they don't complain too loudly if Democrats take back the House based on a handful of seats won in New York - effectively putting an end to the Bush presidency.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; gophouse; hillary; hillary2006; hitlery; jezebel; johnspencer; landslide; thehildabeast
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To: DemforBush
Great pic!


41 posted on 04/22/2006 2:17:18 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: neverdem

Be real careful with the "Fighting Dems." Most of them got no closer to the fighting than a military lawyer's office -- and the lawyers have had a dreadful effect on the war; they've been against the Joes and for the enemy to a great degree.

Massa's history? Not EVEN a lawyer. Wesley Clark's boy-toy. He was never a combat sailor, but a staff weenie that followed Clark around from assignment to assignment, taking care of his needs. He's pro-gay marriage, pro-socialist healthcare. (Like Clark, he's married... it's good for the career).

http://www.massaforcongress.com/newsroom.asp?ARTICLE3049=3414&PG3049=2

Kuhl's bad performance in 04 came when Dems in the courts leaked his sealed divorce records. Ugly stuff in there... but this year it's old news, and in 04 the NY dems timed it so that the leak came just before the election. Unless there's even worse dirt on him they don't have that tactic again.

Remember, Massa was a career Navy officer but never, ever commanded a vessel. Why? He never engaged in actual combat despite two dozen years drawing a check. And his "Capstone Military Assignment" was a "Special Assistant" to Wesley Clark. The Democrats are pretty quiet about that, and totally silent about what he was special assistant FOR: "Congressional liaison."

In other words, the Navy tagged this guy as a politician in uniform, and shuffled him to a shore billet where he could be with his own kind.

The voters have already spoken on Wesley Clark. I doubt that they will have much more enthusiasm for a guy whose career peaked as a Clark horse-holder and Congressional lickspittle.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


42 posted on 04/22/2006 3:00:22 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Fighting Democrats, my foot)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

LOL! Thanks for the update and link on Massa. Sounds like he was handpicked from Hillery's plantation.

I wonder what's with Kuhl that the Conservatives didn't back him in 2004?


43 posted on 04/22/2006 3:26:25 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: CyberAnt
I mean if the GOP acts like the Democrats, there's no reason to vote for them. We want tax cuts, reduced spending and a clampdown on illegal immigration. Conservatives are not asking for the moon from the party. So far we've seen the party leadership move to out-pander the Democrats. As a strategery its doomed to fail. The last thing we need is two big government parties in this country.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

44 posted on 04/22/2006 3:31:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I understand what you mean .. but if OUR NOT VOTING FOR REPUBS causes the DEMOCRATS TO WIN - that is not the outcome I want.

If the dems win back the House, the first item on the agenda will be impeaching Bush - does anybody in their right mind want that to happen ..??

We must get a grip on this before the election - because we cannot afford to have the democrats back in office - EVER!!


45 posted on 04/22/2006 4:57:39 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

hey Carl:

If Bush is impeached he needs to be convicted by 2/3 the senate..aint gonna happen


46 posted on 04/22/2006 5:11:43 PM PDT by georgia2006
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Lee Miringoff, director of the Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, agrees that Clinton and Spitzer victories could have national consequences. "It could turn into a Democratic year in New York, which might then have an impact on down-ballot races for Congress," he explained.

Wow, a Democratic year in NY? I have to think real hard to remember the last time that happened! When did the last one end?

47 posted on 04/22/2006 5:20:38 PM PDT by soloNYer
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Torie
good analysis. Rothenburg, though, actually seems to think Sweeney may be more vulnerable than the Boehlert seat. I don't buy it either, we'll see...

By logic of this article, PA would have seen huge losses for the Dems in 1998 in the House, just to name one of many examples that didn't come true. I don't understand how something like this gets published.

48 posted on 04/22/2006 6:07:58 PM PDT by crasher
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To: Verginius Rufus

Kuhl is considered highly vulnerable. Pres. Bush visited his district in March for a Social Security town hall meeting, at Kuhl's request. There's lots of local media attention to these under-the-MSM-radar daily events.


49 posted on 04/22/2006 7:25:02 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: goldstategop
The GOP will get what it deserves. By acting like Democrats.

Worth repeating... but I don't see any Hillary coattails.

50 posted on 04/22/2006 7:27:50 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: neverdem

Great post.. I am pretty sure Reynolds will lose this time.
He and most of Repubs in this state have pi$$ed off the base so bad they will stay home.


51 posted on 04/22/2006 8:00:34 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: The Mayor
I am pretty sure Reynolds will lose this time.
He and most of Repubs in this state have pi$$ed off the base so bad they will stay home.

That's scary. According to the ACU, he's one of the better ones.

http://www.acuratings.org/2005all.htm#NY

52 posted on 04/22/2006 8:29:26 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I almost shot my fruit juice through my nose reading this.

Ouch...that burns.

53 posted on 04/22/2006 8:39:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Here's my response Carl.
http://albanysinsanity.speakupwny.com/?p=159#respond


54 posted on 04/22/2006 9:04:25 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: neverdem

Davis ran strong against him last time and he is out for blood this time.

When you have the republicans running this state like we do and him chumming up to them like he does they will either stay home or vote Davis.

People are pi$$sed here.. You have no idea..
WNY is the the worst section of the state, we have republicans that do nothing but screw us. Our delegation in Albany jumps to a different tune and Bruno is playing that tune.

Everyone knows that Reynolds controls the republicans up here and we have been getting our a$$es handed to us in a sling. Democrats now control the Erie county legislature because of the inept Republican leadership.

When you have republicans run someone against "us" the leaders of the tax revolt, just to defeat us and to protect their turf, you know we are screwed.

I was leading the dem in my district hands down.... they violated elections law 5 times just to defeat me....
They lost 60 to 40 just as I predicted.

Things have got to change.


55 posted on 04/22/2006 9:12:56 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


56 posted on 04/22/2006 9:59:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem
I wonder what's with Kuhl that the Conservatives didn't back him in 2004?

I dunno. I am not a New Yorker but I am keenly aware that the Conservative Party does not automagically endorse Republicans. It may have been some of the aroma from Kuhl's divorce (I mean, a guy who is out of control of his family life to that extent is a less than ideal candidate). Or he may have thrown some RINO votes -- spinal infirmity being endemic among northeastern Establishment Republicans.

Maybe someone will tell us. There's gotta be some FReepers in NY-29.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

57 posted on 04/22/2006 11:09:01 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Fighting Democrats, huh? Where the hell were they when I was fighting?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Who are the 6 vulnerable Republicans?
Pete King is entrenched
Vito Fossella is not going to lose to Harrison, Spencer or Minardo.
Sue Kelley may be vulnerable. Thats 1
John Sweeney is somewhat vulnerable. 2
John McHugh is vulnerable. 3
Sherry Boehlert is retirng, but District 24 is Republican. As long as the Republican and Conservative Parties run the same candidate, I am not concerned. But, I could see the posibility. 4
Jim Walsh is fine.
In CD 26, Tom Reynolds won handily last time. Although I happen to like the democrat Jack Davis, I don't see him winning in the rematch.
Randy Kuhl should be fine in CD 29.

I count 4 vulnerable Republicans.

Possible Republican pick-ups:
District 27- Jack Quinn Jr. can gain his father's seat from Higgins.
District 1 is quite winnable. There are more Republicans than Democrats Liberals, and Independence Party memembers.
District 2 is split, but I don't see a good candidate.
District 4 is winnable, but not this year.
58 posted on 04/23/2006 3:27:44 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: SheLion

PUSH HER RUDY!!!!


59 posted on 04/23/2006 10:33:29 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote." Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: rmlew; Clintonfatigued; Torie; Kuksool; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; JohnnyZ; AntiGuv

Thanks. I'll tell you what has happened on Long Island is an embarrassment. Until the grass-roots get their act together there, we won't be getting those other 3 House seats there back anytime soon. In the case of District 27, I'd try to make it look like it's the dad that is running for his seat again (hey, if it works, why not ?).

As it stands, we ought to have a 16 'Rat/13 GOP delegation from New York (to at least reflect the fact that the NY GOP represents around 40% of the electorate - even higher in the State Senate, where they still maintain a majority, even if just on paper).


60 posted on 04/24/2006 2:34:50 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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