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Voters give politicians earful on immigration
sptimes.com ^ | April 21, 2006 | ANITA KUMAR, HANDRA BROADWATER

Posted on 04/22/2006 4:29:55 AM PDT by Boston Blackie

BROOKSVILLE - From his seat in the audience, 76-year-old Charles Wingrove wagged his finger at Sen. Bill Nelson and explained that illegal immigrants undermine the American dream.

The Vietnam War veteran railed for five minutes Tuesday at a town hall meeting at Brooksville City Hall about the need for tougher security at U.S. borders. When he was done, the audience erupted in applause.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: texastoo
"The jest of the article is that Americans want amnesty for the illegal aliens."

And that is so not true! Americans have proven that they are demanding security that's why we voted in the tough on security Republicans!

They better not cave now and prove they really aren't tough on security by giving away America by passing amnesty or passing the Mccain/Kennedy horrid bill just to pander what they think is to the mexicans and to the lobbyists. That lobby money won't sustain them when they lose their cushy jobs.

And stop insulting Americans by saying there are jobs Americans think they are to good to do because that is a lie from hell. It's not that Americans wont do the jobs Americans are being disciminated against for the jobs and the greedy employers are hiring illegals over an American and continue breaking laws, RICO, not paying taxes, paying below minimum wage. Case in point, ever walk by a construction site? You would think it was a scene from Mexico.

21 posted on 04/22/2006 5:08:39 AM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: Boston Blackie

I know it covers two groups. However, it is the last part that sticks in your craw and stays with you. It is designed that way.


22 posted on 04/22/2006 5:12:23 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Just mythoughts
McCain just wants to make them legal now so he can share in the spoils.

And why does President Bush want to make them legal? Seems to me that he's no better than McCain on this issue.

23 posted on 04/22/2006 5:22:36 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: stopem

I don't think you have heard me say any of the things you have ranted about. Show me the links where have said "And stop insulting Americans................


24 posted on 04/22/2006 5:25:11 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Boston Blackie

The Republican party is done... you can stick a fork in them. Between their abject failure to control the border, their ridiculous spending spree in congress, the increasing burden on the middle class, their Medicare prescription drug bill and Bush's endless wet kiss with Mexico's Fox... they're DONE.

I have sent letters to those in Congress and the general response is: "We're looking into this... American people... secure... american dream... blah... blah... (time for golf)..."

I am tired of 'offering suggestions'. Even the biggest signal sent in years, the formation of the Minutemen, hasn't sunk in (they're "vigilantes" according to our president). I'm telling you my friends, NOTHING will be done about the border unless we flatly threaten these people with losing their jobs. Tell them straight up: If you don't solve this you'll be leaving Washington DC. I am SICK of getting raped by the IRS every single year but getting no representation in DC.

It's time to play hard ball. That is the ONLY thing they will understand. There has been enough talking and 'discussion'. Threaten them with real consequences. Get it done or get the hell out of the way.


25 posted on 04/22/2006 5:28:00 AM PDT by navyguy
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To: texastoo

You misunderstood I was directing that comment at our politicians, the entire post was geared as a memo to our politicians. Sorry if you thought it was directed at you.


26 posted on 04/22/2006 5:29:03 AM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: Just mythoughts
One has to wonder if this election will be determined by illegals voting illegally.

FREEPER ACTIVISM: If state governments placing tax-exempt bonding refernda on election ballots are allowing illegals to fraudulently vote using phony documentation, govt officials are violating their fiduciary duties. The SEC should be advised of your concerns. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.

FREEPER ACTIVISM: If the bonding agents for tax-exempt government transportation and highways, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, are ignoring illgal activities, the SEC should be advised of your concerns. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.

FREEPER ACTIVISM: Most bonding agents conducting municipal business are registered broker-dealers and members of the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) and the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC). NASD and SIPC should also be contacted regarding your concerns about illegal activity.

FREEPER ACTIVISM: Banks doing business with state govt and municipalities that are conducting illegal activity are jeopardizing bank patrons, shareholders, and depositors and should be reported as follows: The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) is the primary federal regulator for national banks. The OCC's Customer Assistance Group is available to assist customers with questions or complaints concerning national banks. You can reach one of the OCC Customer Assistance Specialists by calling toll free number, 1-800-613-6743, Monday-Thursday, 9-4, and Friday 9-3. Email: Customer.Assistance@occ.treas.gov.

27 posted on 04/22/2006 5:32:11 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: navyguy
It's time to play hard ball. That is the ONLY thing they will understand. There has been enough talking and 'discussion'. Threaten them with real consequences. Get it done or get the hell out of the way.

FREEPER ACTIVISM: If duly elected officials, under oath, are demanding and encouraging ILLEGALS to break the law, to obtain the unlawful right to vote, and obtain unauthroized government benefits using fraudulent documentation, and if elected and appointed officials did, in fact, allow illegals to break the law to serve on municipal councils, and if illegals are making monetary (taxing) decisions for U.S. Citizens, this might be a violation of the Hobbs Act. If officials took campaign contributions from said illegals, this could be characterized as extortion, and/or bribery, and a violation of the Hobbs Act.

The Hobbs Act was used recently to nail four TENN state legislators and their aides in an extortion scheme. The TENN groups was arrested under the federal Hobbs Act, charging extortion, conspiracy to extort and attempted extortion, and accepting bribes as an agent of the state.

The Hobbs Act covers extortion by public officials, as follows: 2403 Hobbs Act -- Extortion By Force, Violence, or Fear

SOURCE October 1997 Criminal Resource Manual 2403 http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm02403.htm

9-131.000 THE HOBBS ACT -- 18 U.S.C. § 1951
9-131.020 Investigative and Supervisory Jurisdiction

Primary investigative jurisdiction of offenses in 18 U.S.C. § 1951 lies with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Inspector General's Office of Investigations, Division of Labor Racketeering (formerly the Office of Labor Racketeering), United States Department of Labor, is also authorized to investigate violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1951 in labor-management disputes involving the extortion of property from employers by reason of authority conferred on investigators as Special Deputy United States Marshals.

Supervisory jurisdiction over 18 U.S.C. § 1951 is exercised by the following offices with respect to the offenses noted:

1. Extortion under color of official right or extortion by a public official through misuse of his/her office is supervised by the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division.

2. Extortion and robbery in labor-management disputes is supervised by the Labor-Management Unit of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section, Criminal Division.

3. All other extortion and robbery offenses not involving public officials or labor-management disputes are supervised by the Terrorism and Violent Crimes Section, Criminal Division.

28 posted on 04/22/2006 5:41:55 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: goldstategop
The politicians won't listen to the voters.

Which is exactly why We The People aren't allowed to vote on the issue.

29 posted on 04/22/2006 5:42:56 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Liz

Thank you for this information, great post.


30 posted on 04/22/2006 5:48:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: BTCM
He (Warner) has to go!

to quote Capt. Picard of Star Trek..... MAKE IT SO!

31 posted on 04/22/2006 5:51:59 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Just mythoughts

You are very welcome.....follow-though is key.


32 posted on 04/22/2006 5:57:29 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Liz

Thank you, Liz!!!


33 posted on 04/22/2006 5:58:02 AM PDT by navyguy
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To: Boston Blackie
"Putnam and Harris, who both voted for the House bill, acknowledge that the House bill only addresses part of the problem - border security." More lib lies.

HR 4437 deals with all 3 segments of the problem: border security, interior enforcement, criminal employers.

34 posted on 04/22/2006 6:20:55 AM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: navyguy; Just mythoughts
FREEPER ACTIVISM: CONTACT LAW ENFORCEMENT

EMAIL: ASKDOJ@USDOJ.GOV

REPORT ALL ELECTED LAWMAKERS' UNDER OATH AIDING
AND ABETTING IMMIGRANTS' FEDERAL CRIMINAL FELONIES

PARTIAL LIST---IMMIGRANTS' FEDERAL CRIMINAL FELONIES


1 - Use of illegal ID or documents
2 - Federal income tax evasion
3 - Re-entry into USA after deportation
4 - Obtain/Operate vehicles with illegal ID
5 - ID theft/fraud - Social Security fraud
6 - Knowingly gaining employment fraudulently
7 - Recruiting other illegal aliens workers
8 - Transporting illegal aliens
9 - Harboring &/or housing illegal aliens
10 - Undermining US national security
11 - Registering/Voting using fraudulent documentation
12 - Conspiracy to violate federal statutes
13 - Uttering false statements to public officials
14 - Obstructing law enforcement

35 posted on 04/22/2006 6:34:05 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Boston Blackie


I'm sorry this group is just a minority of malcontents. The latest Zogby poll says so.


36 posted on 04/22/2006 6:39:45 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Boston Blackie

Illegal Democrats.


37 posted on 04/22/2006 7:06:07 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Here in Texas illegals vote all the time - remember the Democratic passed bill in the 93 or so: The motor-voter law, where anyone applying for a drivers liscense can signup to vote.

Heck in Texas you can register your dog to vote, now if I could just teach him to press that little electroinc screen button instead of trying to lick it instead. Maybe I should just ask for an absentee ballot for him instead ;~)....


38 posted on 04/22/2006 10:04:46 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: Boston Blackie
"It's one of the most divisive issues that Congress has to deal with, but it does cut across party lines," said Sharon Hughes, executive vice president of the National Council of Agriculture Employers. "You just don't know who's going to be on what side of the issue."

The republican Pols are just not smart enough to see the opportunity in this mess.

If republicans enact legislation like H.R. 4437 that secures the border, punishes employers, demands that illegals return to their home country, etc. all the republicans will vote for them, a significant number of democrats will vote for them and about 40% of the hispanics of whatever party will vote for them.

39 posted on 04/22/2006 10:11:02 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: SeaBiscuit

Hey SB, I was just telling Em that I heard on Talk Radio today that ALL voter's on both sides want to elect an entirely new Congress, the last time this happened was when "Xlinton" got in...we best be careful but Yeah the right idea, vote 98% of them gone!


40 posted on 04/22/2006 10:19:54 AM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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