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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.

Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."

"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."

Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.

"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.

"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."


BLOCKBUSTER !! KIM's a GEM !!

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.


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KEYWORDS: da; dancer; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; lax; rape
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I agree with you that there are a lot of pictures because of something that was said by the "stripper"...oops, I mean mother doing it "for the children".

The boys had a gut feeling. They were certainly not desparate for pictures of these two ......call them what you will.

761 posted on 04/21/2006 12:06:04 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Jay Gould

I am willing to bet both sides, the strippers and the team members, called each other some nasty names that night.


762 posted on 04/21/2006 12:06:32 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Jay Gould

Dude, you're blowing my mind.


763 posted on 04/21/2006 12:06:50 PM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Howlin
Can you tell me something; is it standard policy to call 911 after a racial slur?

Howlin, that's a hecka good point.

Can you imagine the 911 operators having to be dealing with zillion of "she called me a b***" phone calls? egds...

Guess it would summon a Democrat call for turning the Police Force into "diplomatic workers" "conflict resolution workers" Police force, er whatever it was Clinton wanted to call Military some years back..

764 posted on 04/21/2006 12:07:09 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Howlin
I noticed that the article in the News & Observer and was just looking at The Ledger.com have this line in the Kim Roberts article:

"If the boys are innocent, sorry fellas," she said. "Sorry you had to go through this."

But most of the AP and other articles I have gone through do not....

Interesting...

765 posted on 04/21/2006 12:07:28 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: abb

Secret witness---What secret witness?? For which side???Saying WHAT???


766 posted on 04/21/2006 12:08:16 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Law is not justice but process
I was speaking in more of the terms of what the families might be thinking. I am sure they are all scared to death of what has happened here. I do agree if the charges get dropped on the two charged right now the accuser will have no credibility.
767 posted on 04/21/2006 12:08:24 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Howlin

One more thing: In re the 911 call for the "slur". Way back when, I posted I thought she made that call but Just because she was feeling like "threatening" them or even feeling "threatened" herself. But now, with more data coming forward, did I just read in this thread that she told the boys she'd sic someone on them? She did. I remember it. So, a call to give the appearance of backing up her "power" assertion of getting someone to pay "them" back. Ipso, the 911 call about a "slur".


768 posted on 04/21/2006 12:10:10 PM PDT by Alia
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To: BossLady

Here is a link to those comments:

http://www.dailycomet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060421/APN/604210587


769 posted on 04/21/2006 12:10:20 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: sissyjane

The jerdge will be on FOX @ 3:19 EDT to discuss. Apparently some new theory of his that the DA has a "surpise" witness...


770 posted on 04/21/2006 12:10:25 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Alia
Can you tell me something; is it standard policy to call 911 after a racial slur?

Can you tell me something; is it standard policy to call 911 after a racial slur, when you know you in violation of parole and there maybe an outstanding warrant for your arrest...

771 posted on 04/21/2006 12:14:15 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: pepperhead
It seems to me that the accusers have no credibility now. The DA is thinking about what to do. He should have done that BEFORE he arrested the boys.

I'm betting that these two chicks are pretty well known in the police department and judges chambers. Lot of nasty background here. Maybe the DA didn't realize who the stripper was....at first....and jumped the gun.

Tomorrow's Headline: DA UPDATING HIS RESUME!!

772 posted on 04/21/2006 12:14:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: sissyjane

Secret witness---What secret witness?? For which side???Saying WHAT???

___

Considering it was FNC teaser for the next segment, it was probably NOTHING more than what we have already heard.


773 posted on 04/21/2006 12:14:27 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: abb

The jerdge will be on FOX @ 3:19 EDT to discuss. Apparently some new theory of his that the DA has a "surpise" witness...

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Who is 'the jerdge'???


774 posted on 04/21/2006 12:16:07 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

Yep...that's what TheLedger.com article said...almost verbatum....


775 posted on 04/21/2006 12:16:49 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: snarkytart

Napolitano


776 posted on 04/21/2006 12:17:21 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Howlin; Jay Gould
Can you tell me something; is it standard policy to call 911 after a racial slur?

Well where I come from, the N word will get you broken bones and missing teeth, the W word will get you the whole damn gang driving by shooting up your house. Viva La Raza, baby! The cops then get called by a bystander when it gets ugly.

If that word was used, Kim would have decked the guy and his jaw would probably be wired shut. She looks like a mean little sh*t ;-D Calling 911 is a little out of character for a felon.

777 posted on 04/21/2006 12:17:22 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: abb

Did I miss the "secret witness?" I'm fielding phone calls from my husband's band -- who seem to be all on the road, lost. :-)


778 posted on 04/21/2006 12:17:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: abb

lol...ok.


779 posted on 04/21/2006 12:18:23 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: sissyjane

Unfortunately, Mark Geragos agrees with us, too. :-)


780 posted on 04/21/2006 12:18:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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