Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak
Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.
Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.
"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."
"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."
Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.
Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.
The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."
"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."
Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.
On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.
"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.
Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.
Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.
Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.
Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."
"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.
Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.
The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.
"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.
The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.
Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.
Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."
The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.
The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."
"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."
On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.
Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.
"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."
Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.
"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.
Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.
"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."
Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.
"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."
Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.
Think back on this case: first Nifong makes a HUGE deal out of the DNA; then, close to the time it is due, he declares he won't release it, which, of course, would have just left the accusation lingering even longer. He told the press that the DNA results were bullet-proof, that he didn't need anything else.
Well, when it came back and he wasn't going to release it, the defense did, hoping it would give him pause.
But when did he do? He went to NCCU and made what in the minds of most people were inflammatory remarks about "the Duke Lacrosse Team raping a black girl."
That's when he lost the press, if you look back.
In addition, the week before the indictments and before they released the pictures, the defense team went to him and BEGGED him to look at the pictures and to meet with their clients to hear their stories and alibis.
Again he refused.
It's my opinion that they only released the picture descriptions to try to ward off any indictment of the players because that is a bell that cannot be unrung.
Ever.
We are where we are today because of him.
"Election day is early May. My guess is if his case collapses before that he's not going to make it."
We only have 11 days to wait for the answer.
Look for a May 1 surprise from the D.A..
I bet if I said I was glad a black girl was being humiliated you'd go through the roof.
I'm wondering if he were there that late? If he left any time before 11:30 (?) it might be argued that he had just enough time to rush over to the house and commit a horrible crime on a stomach full of Mexican food. Well, he might have been in the bathroom for other reasons.
Thanks for your ideas!
How strange is that? A racial slur is worse than a rape....
Kim Roberts was convicted of embezzlement on 12/11/2001. She was ordered to pay restitution (24900.55), costs of court(115.00), community service fees (100.00) and probation fees(20.00 per month) and given community service as a result of a suspended sentence and under terms of her three year probation. As of today, nearly 5 years later, Roberts is STILL actively on probation. Roberts is NOT a convicted sex offender. She has NOT been convicted of any domestic violence offenses. On 8/11/2003 her probation was modified (most likely extended). It is possible it was modified due to charges involving alcohol as her BAC level is given. She was called and failted to appear on 9/7/2004 and a warrant for her arrest was issued on 9/20/2004. I cannot discern the cause for the arrest and for what she failed to appear for. Roberts was also arrested on 3/23/2006 as we all know for a probation violation. Kim Rogers is also known as Kim Pitman.
Anyone with better understanding of post #89 please correct me if I am wrong.
No I'm not.
I should have been more clear.
The use of that particular slur has a loaded meaning in this country given its history.
Howlin was responding to me, questioning your lack of etiquette in adding people to your ping list without permission. I'm the poster who questioned whether or not you were taking over the threads with your own ping lists..there was no need for you to post to her instead of me. If you need help on FR etiquette, I'm sure you will be pointed in the right direction.
The name I read in the beginning was Allure Escort Service; and somewhere on here I read that the service called a "middleman" to book the girls.
The News & Observer said that Allure isn't answering their phones anymore.
LOL, paybacks feel good don't they?
It should! After all you've read and heard Howlin, do you think the girl was even raped? I'm suspicious of the D.A. using a private lab to have the DNA retested, rather than using the state's crime lab like he did the first time. What's up with that? I think he and Kim Roberts have established the fact that they are both pandering scumbags in it for their 15 minutes of fame and money.
That's sounds right to me, thanks!
You could be absolutely right.
"She was ordered to pay restitution (24900.55), costs of court(115.00), community service fees (100.00) and probation fees(20.00 per month)"
No wonder the poor girl needs to be a $400 a gig stripper/escort. She has bills to pay!
Just what they have gotten so far.
Humiliation but nothing else.
I am saying this hypothetically because I am not sure they even said any slurs. I just wish they would clear that up.
Thanks for putting it into FReeper English for us!
Can you tell me something; is it standard policy to call 911 after a racial slur?
I'd say that was too obvious, but not for this guy.
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