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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.

Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."

"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."

Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.

"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.

"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."


BLOCKBUSTER !! KIM's a GEM !!

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: da; dancer; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; lax; rape
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To: Alia

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121 posted on 04/21/2006 4:01:29 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: OakOak
But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

So, defending yourself indicates guilt?

122 posted on 04/21/2006 4:01:32 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: maggief

That guy looks like her. Really.


123 posted on 04/21/2006 4:02:02 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: TankerKC

Good morning, Tanker! Good to see you investigating again!


124 posted on 04/21/2006 4:03:19 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

That, and she was continuing on her criminal path.

You steal 25,000 what's $800.00?

It's interesting what words she chooses, she says
THEY RIPPED THEMSELVES OFF, when they made that comment.

Thanks for the info on the Warrant..


125 posted on 04/21/2006 4:04:48 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: hershey
Another face missing in all this, whom you'd think would jump in with both feet...Al Sharpton

Oh, he showed on O'Reilly. Sharpton claimed that the Duke lacrosse boys were pretending to be on the BASKETBALL and track teams specifically so they could get black strippers.

The AV claimed to police it was the BASEBALL and track teams, and that was at the party itself.

126 posted on 04/21/2006 4:05:55 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: maggief

Damn, Maggief is on Fire ! Thanks


127 posted on 04/21/2006 4:06:29 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: maggief
Children: Proud parent

Children: Not proud of parent

There, fixed it.

128 posted on 04/21/2006 4:10:34 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: maggief

Yeah - they didn't order Chinese.


129 posted on 04/21/2006 4:12:09 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: OakOak
Nifong is certifiable !! Now, I believe he screwed up the Photo ID too. Hard to believe, but this guys judgement is so outrageous!!

When you think about it, when Mangum told him them Duke boys did it, it's a wonder he didn't sent the Durham police out to arrest Bo, Luke and Uncle Jesse too!!

130 posted on 04/21/2006 4:14:06 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Locomotive Breath

Well, with all this dirt coming out on Mother Teresa's cell-mate, the N&O article on the front page (they didn't cover this story), says that Duke's Culture, all too often,
DEVALUES DIVERSITY, and is disrespectful.

Okay. Larceny, Assualt, Embezzlement, Arrest Warrants, they're not serious, BUT DON'T DEVALUE DIVERISITY or you'll be looking at 16-20 years!


131 posted on 04/21/2006 4:15:16 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: OakOak

... and I haven't had my coffee yet. :)


132 posted on 04/21/2006 4:18:15 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: OakOak

Yeah - I just ripped them again at M.S.'s blog. Not that it will do any good.


133 posted on 04/21/2006 4:19:17 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: maggief

Yep. I saw that log-on date. Her screed supports that idea that it is indeed her website: "Embracing the darkness"... "How I got to this point", etc.


134 posted on 04/21/2006 4:20:08 AM PDT by Alia
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To: OakOak
This was MY THEORY .. KIM Stole the $400.00 That's why the boys were heard yelling (by the neighbor) as the dancers were leaving .. they're leaving with our Money

There were paid to work for two hours and I don't think they wored 15 minutes

135 posted on 04/21/2006 4:22:51 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: hershey

Nancy G. was close to psychotic Tuesday nite. Did you see how she busted the ba$$s of her producer?


136 posted on 04/21/2006 4:23:55 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: OakOak; Admin Moderator
will say the boys ordered 2 black CONVICTS because the SICK players got Sexual pleasure from being ripped off

BLACK convicts so they could get pleasure from being ripped off? They had to be BLACK convicts? If they had been White convicts, then what? They wouldn't have ripped off the boys because only BLACKS do that? The boys wouldn't have gotten pleasure because only BLACKS would have served for that?

Something is wrong with this mindset. I get so tired of so many posters harping on the BLACK aspect. It's wrong.

137 posted on 04/21/2006 4:24:24 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: maggief
From her website:

About me: Beautiful, Natural, fiery, fierce, passionate, SEXY, CRAZY, COOL, Woman. I am as real as REAL gets. If you don't want to know the truth, don't ask me. I try to live everyday like its my last. I live by Karma's passage and the prayer of tomorrow. I was born where there is black sands and exotic lands. If you want to know more.... Just ask. Cuz, as I sit in the dark, I wonder What steps were taken to get here, What could I have done differently and where could my life have gone. Can I ever find that specific wrong turn or indecision? I must remind myself that i am who i am Because of this darkness which engulfs me. I must embrace and rejoice the darkness, Just as i do the light. It is with this understanding, that the truth will be revealed... Myspace Layouts

Did you see her friend Shannon's site? Maybe they are in the trade together? "Artists" hoping to get noticed via route of the Larry Flynt crowd?

138 posted on 04/21/2006 4:27:27 AM PDT by Alia
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To: OakOak

Another addition to the timeline:


http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/430963.html


While driving Seligmann home, Mostafa received a call at 12:29 a.m. from the cell phone of lacrosse player Tony McDevitt, requesting another ride from the party, the records show.

Mostafa, whose account appeared initially on national television and in The Herald-Sun, said that when he pulled up again in front of 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. some men were in the front yard and others were across the street and along the stone wall that rings Duke's East Campus.

While Mostafa waited at the curb, a woman in jeans and a sweater came from an alley beside the house and got into the driver's seat of a car parked in front of his taxi.

The woman appeared angry, Mostafa said, and drove several hundred feet before putting the car in reverse and stopping in front of the three-bedroom white house. That's when he whisked his fares away.







Bissey is talking again ...


Defense lawyers have said that the woman arrived at the party already impaired and battered and concocted a story.

Jason Bissey, who lives next door to the university-owned house, said Thursday that he had a clear view of the accuser's arrival and that she did not appear to be impaired. He said he saw her walk up a long alley to the rear of the lacrosse house, then talk to the other woman hired to dance before entering the home.

"They were both totally lucid. [The accuser] was not impaired in any way, I remember clearly," Bissey said Thursday. "It was a kind of a long way to walk so it would have been pretty clear if she was messed up."

Defense lawyers have said the women each received $400 to dance and angered the players by stopping after only a few minutes. Time-stamped photos taken by party-goers show the dancers stopping at 12:04 a.m.


139 posted on 04/21/2006 4:28:01 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: maggief

I have a feeling Finnerty's attorney is holding back with something really good.


140 posted on 04/21/2006 4:31:06 AM PDT by panthermom
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